Solve Spring Force Problem: V at x=4 & x for V=5

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a 2.0 kg body moving along the positive x-axis under the influence of a spring force defined by Fx = -6x Newtons. The initial conditions include a velocity of 8.0 m/s at x = 3.0 m, with questions regarding the velocity at x = 4.0 m and the position where the velocity equals 5.0 m/s.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the work-energy principle, questioning the initial conditions and the implications of the spring force. Some suggest finding the initial velocity to solve for the subsequent velocities, while others explore the relationship between kinetic and potential energy.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and exploring different interpretations of the problem. There is a focus on clarifying the relationship between forces and energy conservation, as well as the implications of the spring force on the motion of the body.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of initial conditions and the potential for misunderstanding the nature of the forces involved. There is a discussion about the assumptions regarding the absence of other forces and the role of conservative forces in the energy equations.

PrudensOptimus
Messages
641
Reaction score
0
The only force acting on a 2.0kg body as it moves along the positive x-axis has an x compenent Fx = -6x Newtons, where x is in meters. The velocity of the body at x = 3.0m is 8.0m/s.


(a). What is the velocity of the body at x = 4.0m?
(b). At what positive value of x wil the body have a velocity of 5.0m/s?


(a). Since K = W = Integral ( F dx )

and F = Fx = -6x

K = -3 (x ^2) evaluate from 0 to 4
= 48
m/2 v^2 = 48
v = 6.9m/s

correct?

(b). since m/2 v^2 = -3x^2
and v = 5

x = sqrt ( -25/3 )

is not right because it would give me a complex number...


Please advise!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
In this case the body had an initial speed at x=0 (otherwise how could it have a positive velocity at x=3)
Find the initial velocity using the velocity at x=3, then you should get the correct answers for a and b.
 
Have you done SHM, because this is such type of problem? You can therefore use the SHM equations (or try to derive them yourself!). Note that since
F=-6x
we have that
a=-\frac{6}{m}x
which gives
a=-\omega^2x
Not to confuse you, but as the problem is stated one might think that the force also has an y-component (which I think is not the case, since then it is not possible to answer the questions).
 
HINT: (a) The work done represents the change in kinetic energy.

HINT: (b) The change in potential plus kinetic energy is 0.
 
so the sum of all external forces = 0?
 
Energy is conserved so

m v^2 + k x^2 = m v_0^2 + k x_0^2[/itex]
 
PrudensOptimus said:
so the sum of all external forces = 0?
No, but the work done by the conservative restoring force of the spring is included in the work-energy equation, so we do not need to consider the work done by this force if we include it as the potential energy of the system (the mass and the spring) - which is given by \frac{1}{2}kx^2 as indicated by Tide.
 
Could you explain what are the differences between sum of all forces = 0 and K + U = K + U?
 
From the work kinetic energy theorem we have that the change in kinetic energy of a body is given by the work done by all of the forces that acts on it. If there are no forces, or the forces do not do work on the body, the kinetic energy of the body stays constant. We can exlude the work done by a conservative force from the work side of this calculation if we include the potential energy of the system (which is the negative of the work done by the conservative force therefore) on the energy side of the equation. If no other force acts on the body the total energy of the body will then remain constant or
K_1+U_1=K_2+U_2
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 18 ·
Replies
18
Views
2K
Replies
29
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
1K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
6
Views
1K
Replies
11
Views
1K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K