Solve Spring Physics Help: More Vibrations Woho!

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The discussion revolves around solving a physics problem related to the vibrations of a mass-spring system. Participants are analyzing the configuration of springs and their constants to determine the correct frequency of oscillation. The focus includes calculations involving spring constants and the relationship between angular velocity and frequency.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a method to combine the spring constants of two springs in parallel to simplify the calculation, suggesting that the effective spring constant for the left side is 100 N/m.
  • Another participant notes that the formula SQRT(k/m) is used for angular velocity, indicating a need to convert this to frequency by dividing by 2π.
  • A subsequent post suggests that the calculated frequency is lower than expected, indicating that the effective spring constant might need to be higher.
  • Another participant challenges the values of the spring constants provided, stating that the resultant spring constant must be 300 N/m to achieve the frequency of 2.76 Hz.

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Participants express differing views on the correct spring constants and calculations, with no consensus reached on the values or the resulting frequency. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correct approach to the problem.

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Limitations include unclear figures and potential misinterpretations of spring constants, which may affect the calculations presented.

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More vibrations woho.

The mass (top) can only move vertically. the two bars are weightless. The springs are bottom left = 100N/m bottom middle = 100 bottom right = 300.

They are symmetric away from the bars.

So what I did was make the two on the bottom left into one as 100+100 = 200.

Then they are now in parallel with the one above. 1/k=1/200+1/200 which yields the whole left side = 100.

Now replace the 2 ones left with (100+300)/2 and voila k for the whole system = 200. Probably wrong.

The mass of the block is 1 kg. wn=root(k/m) and I get 14 something I think it is hz?

Answer is 2.76 Hz, what do I need to do?
 

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I did not check your calculation as figure is not clear for me.
But SQRT(k/m) is for Angular Velocity.
For Frequency (f) which is in Hz you need to divide it by 1/(2*3.14)
If you send me the figure, I can work it out.
 
hmm that gives me 2.25 hz, so I guess the k should be higher. I'll draw a better figure now

Maybe that helps?

And the top left spring is 200!
 

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Can you pl. check your Spring constants values.
Because if resultant spring constant becomes 300, then you get frequency as 2.76 Hz.
But with present values you supplied it's not possible.
Sorry for that.
 

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