Solve the Differential Equation by method of Series

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The discussion revolves around solving the differential equation y'' - xy' + y = 0 using the method of series. Participants are exploring the substitution of a power series for y(x) and the resulting recurrence relations for the coefficients.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the substitution of a power series and derive expressions for the coefficients Cn. There are attempts to establish a recurrence relation and explore specific values for C2, C4, C6, and C8. Questions arise regarding the implications of setting y = C1x and the nature of arbitrary coefficients.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and exploring the implications of their findings. Some participants express uncertainty about the recurrence relations and the role of arbitrary coefficients, while others suggest deriving general expressions for the coefficients.

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There is a focus on the behavior of coefficients for even and odd n, and participants are encouraged to derive general forms without simplifying terms. The discussion includes considerations of assumptions related to the nature of the solutions and the coefficients involved.

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Solve by the method of series

y''-xy'+y=0

From what I understand, I need to substitute in
y(x)=SUM(Cn*xn) from n=0 to infinity
I get that:
y'(x)=SUM(n*Cn*xn-1) from n=1 to infinity
and
y''(x)=SUM(n*(n-1)*Cn*xn-2) from n=2 to infinity

When I substitute in and collect the terms, I get:
2C2 + C0 + SUM[(Cn+2*(n+2)*(n+1)-Cn*n+Cn)*xn] from n=1 to infinity = 0

So then I get that
C2 = -C0/2
and
Cn+2 = Cn/(n+2)

And I don't know what to do after that. Any hints on where to go from there would be much appreciated...
 
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Hi Sol-chan ! :smile:
Sol-chan said:
C2 = -C0/2

hint:

C4 = C0 *… ?

C6 = C0 *… ?

C8 = C0 *… ? :wink:
 
Sol-chan said:
So then I get that
C2 = -C0/2
and
Cn+2 = Cn/(n+2)

I get (for n even):

[tex]C_{\,n+2}=\frac{(n-1)C_n}{(n+1)(n+2)}[/tex]

Plug in y = C1x to find out about C1.

Take the derivative of both sides of y''-xy'+y=0, to get the recurrence relation for Cn for odd n > 1.
 
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Ah, right, I solved that wrong. So, with

Cn+2 = (n-1)Cn/(n+1)(n+2)

I get that
C4 = -C0/24
C6 = -C0/240
C8 = -C0/2688

What am I plugging y=C1x into?
 
y''-xy'+y=0
 
Doesn't that just give 0 = 0?
Because if y=C1x then y'=C1 and y''=0, then you get
0-x*C1 + x*C1 = 0
0 = 0

And I don't really understand the recurrence relation, either. I'm not sure if I'm doing this right, but taking the derivative of both sides I get
y''' - xy'' +2y' = 0
And I'm not sure what that's supposed to be telling me...
 
Right, so C1x is a solution. Right?

C1 is an arbitrary coefficient. So is C0 arbitrary.
 
Okay, arbitrary... meaning I can just set them equal to whatever I want, right? But I still don't see how that helps me...
 
No, it means you have to set them to something general, like ... C0 & C1.

Try to come up with a general expression for Cn, where n is even. It will be of the form, C0*f(n).

The expression: [tex]C_{\,n+2}=\frac{(n-1)C_n}{(n+1)(n+2)}[/tex] tells you what about Cn for n=3 and odd n > 3?
 
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Sol-chan said:
Ah, right, I solved that wrong. So, with

Cn+2 = (n-1)Cn/(n+1)(n+2)

I get that
C4 = -C0/24
C6 = -C0/240
C8 = -C0/2688
Write these without canceling or combining factors, so that you can the general form for Cn :
C4 = -C0 (1) / [(1)(2)(3)(4)]
C6 = -C0 (1)(3) / [(1)(2)(3)(4)(5)(6)]
C8 = -C0 (1)(3)(5) / [(1)(2)(3)(4)(5)(6)(7)(8)]
...​
Note: For even n, (n-1)(n-3)...(5)(3)(1) = [(n-1)(n-3)...(5)(3)(1)][(n)(n-2)(n-4)...(4)(2)]/[(n)(n-2)(n-4)...(4)(2)] = n!/[2(n/2)(n/2)!]
 
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