Solve the following system and interpret the result geometrically

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The discussion revolves around solving a system of three linear equations in three variables (x, y, z) and interpreting the geometric implications of their solutions. The equations represent planes in three-dimensional space.

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  • Participants explore methods for solving the system, including substitution and elimination. There are questions about the geometric interpretation of the solutions, particularly regarding the nature of the intersection of the planes represented by the equations.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to proceed with finding the values of x, y, and z. There is recognition of errors in calculations and signs, prompting further clarification and correction. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to understand the geometric representation of the solution.

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Participants express confusion regarding the geometric implications of a zero z-value and the parallelism of planes to the z-axis. There are also references to the need for careful handling of signs in calculations.

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Solve the following system and interpret the result geometrically

3x + 4y + 5z - 18 = 0
2x - y + 8z - 13 = 0
-x + 17y + 25z + 11 = 0


My answer:
3x + 4y + 5z – 18 = 0 (1)
2x – y + 8z – 13 = 0 (2)
-x + 17y + 25z + 11 = 0 (3)

Multiply (1) by 2 and (2) by 3

6x + 8y + 10z – 36 = 0
6x – 3y + 24z – 39 = 0

Subtract the two equations

11y – 14z + 3 = 0 (4)

Multiply equation (3) by -3

3x – 51y – 75z – 33 = 0

Subtract the equation from (1)

55y + 80z + 15 = 0

Simplify

11y + 16z + 3 = 0 (5)

We now have the new system
11y – 14z + 3 = 0 (4)
11y + 16z + 3 = 0 (5)

Subtract (4) from (5)

30z = 0


this is as far as i got...i'm not sure if it is correct and if it is correct i don't know what it geometrically represents.
any guidance is appreciated
Thanks in advance
 
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You're doing fine so far. Now finish by finding x and y. If you think of x,y,z as three dimensional coordinates then the graph of each of those equations is very simple geometrical figure. Can you name it? Solving them simultaneously is the same as finding the intersection in geometric language.
 
Solve for z
z = 0

substitute z = 0 into equation (4)

11y – 14(0) + 3 = 0

11y + 3 = 0
y = 3/11

substitute y and z into equation (1) to find x

3x + 4(3/11) + 5(0) – 18 = 0
x = 5.6

Therefore the planes intersect at the point (5.6, 0.273, 0) and are parallel to the z axis.

am i getting somewhere?
THANKS
 
lamerali said:
Solve for z
z = 0

substitute z = 0 into equation (4)

11y – 14(0) + 3 = 0

11y + 3 = 0
y = 3/11

substitute y and z into equation (1) to find x

3x + 4(3/11) + 5(0) – 18 = 0
x = 5.6

Therefore the planes intersect at the point (5.6, 0.273, 0) and are parallel to the z axis.

am i getting somewhere?
THANKS

You are getting somewhere, but you are being pretty sloppy on the way. Shouldn't y=(-3/11)? Once you have (x,-3/11,0) then, sure, you have three planes that intersect in that point. But why would say any of them is parallel to the z axis? What would the equation of a plane parallel to the z axis look like?
 
i got confused for some reason i thought because the z value of the point was zero there was a plane parallel to the z-axis...
so in the end would i simply say:
substitute y and z into equation (1) to find x

3x + 4(-3/11) + 5(0) – 18 = 0
x = -6.4

Therefore the three planes intersect at the point (-6.4, 0.273, 0)
 
lamerali said:
i got confused for some reason i thought because the z value of the point was zero there was a plane parallel to the z-axis...
so in the end would i simply say:
substitute y and z into equation (1) to find x

3x + 4(-3/11) + 5(0) – 18 = 0
x = -6.4

Therefore the three planes intersect at the point (-6.4, 0.273, 0)

Now you've got the x value wrong. :( Why don't you just express them all as fraction like -3/11. That way you don't have to worry about round off.
 
3x + 4(-3/11) + 5(0) – 18 = 0
x = -70/11

Therefore the three planes intersect at the point (-70/11, -3/11, 0)
 
You are making the same mistake as with y. The SIGN is wrong. Figure out what you are doing wrong that is causing this to happen and don't do it again!
 
ahhh...i wasn't switching the sign when I added it to the R.S so the point is (70/11, -3/11, 0)
 
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Riggght.
 
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YAY! Thanks for the help!
 

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