Solve the given simultaneous equations that involves hyperbolas

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The discussion revolves around solving simultaneous equations involving hyperbolas, specifically focusing on the equations of the form \(\frac{x^2}{4} - \frac{y^2}{9} = 1\) and \(\frac{y^2}{4} - \frac{x^2}{9} = 1\). Participants are exploring various approaches to find the intersection points of these conic sections.

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  • One participant presents a method involving algebraic manipulation to derive \(x^2 = y^2\) and subsequently substitutes back into the original equations. Others express interest in alternative methods and discuss the implications of symmetry in the equations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active with participants sharing their approaches and questioning the reasoning behind certain steps. There is an acknowledgment of the symmetry in the equations, and while some guidance has been offered, no consensus on a single method has been reached.

Contextual Notes

One participant notes that they are currently studying ellipses and hyperbolas, which may influence their understanding and approach to the problem. There is also a mention of potential confusion regarding the notation used in expressing solutions.

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This is my own question- i am currently reading on ellipses and hyperbolas..

##\dfrac{x^2}{4}-\dfrac{y^2}{9}=1##

##\dfrac{y^2}{4}-\dfrac{x^2}{9}=1##
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My approach on this;

##\dfrac{x^2}{4}-\dfrac{y^2}{9}=\dfrac{y^2}{4}-\dfrac{x^2}{9}##

##9x^2-4y^2=9y^2-4x^2##

##13x^2-13y^2=0##

##x^2=y^2##

Therefore, on substituting back into equation we shall have;

##\dfrac{x^2}{4}-\dfrac{x^2}{9}=1##

##9x^2-4x^2=36##

##5x^2=36##

##x^2=7.2##

##x=\sqrt{7.2}=±2.68## to 3 significant figures.

therefore our solutions are; ##(x,y)= (2.68, 2.68), (2.68,-2.68), (-2.68, -2.68), (-2.68,2.68).##

I would appreciate any other approach other than this...
 
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chwala said:
Homework Statement:: This is my own question- i am currently reading on ellipses and hyperbolas..

##\dfrac{x^2}{4}-\dfrac{y^2}{9}=1##

##\dfrac{y^2}{4}-\dfrac{x^2}{9}=1##
Relevant Equations:: Simultaneous equations

I would appreciate any other approach other than this...
Why? You have a nice solution.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Why? You have a nice solution.
Cheers @fresh_42 ...different ways in solving math problems has always fascinated me...other than finding the solution...I know that this forum has the smartest brains on the planet... another approach may be forthcoming ... :biggrin: :cool:...cheers mate!

I guess since ##x^2 = y^2##, not much can be done here...
 
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However you look at it, you have to calculate the intersection points of two conic sections.

You can only get ##x^2=y^2## directly by the observation that ##(x^2,y^2)=(y^2,x^2)## for symmetry reasons, and if ##x\neq \pm y## then we would get more than four intersection points which is impossible. So ##9x^2-4x^2=5x^2=36## and thus ##x=\pm \sqrt{7.2}## follows without many calculations.
 
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Nit in the second line below:
##x^2=7.2##
##x=\sqrt{7.2}=±2.68## to 3 significant figures.
That line should start with ##x = \pm \sqrt{7.2} \dots##

If you are thinking that ##\sqrt{7.2} =± 2.68...##, that is erroneous thinking.
 
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