Solve Triangle ABC: A=50, b=15, c=11

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The discussion revolves around solving triangle ABC with given angle A = 50 degrees, side b = 15, and side c = 30. Participants are exploring the application of the Law of Cosines and the Law of Sines to find the unknown side and angles of the triangle.

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  • Participants attempt to use the Law of Cosines to find side a and then apply the Law of Sines to determine angles B and C. There are questions regarding the validity of the different angle values obtained, with some participants noting the potential for ambiguity in the sine function.

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There is ongoing exploration of the problem, with participants questioning the correctness of their calculations and the implications of the sine function's properties. Some guidance is offered regarding the relationship between the longest side and the largest angle, but no consensus is reached on the correct values for angles B and C.

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Participants note discrepancies in the values used for side c, initially stating it as 11 before correcting it to 30. This change impacts the calculations and the resulting angles, leading to further discussion about the correct approach to resolve the ambiguity.

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Homework Statement



Solve triangle ABC...
A = 50 degrees
b= 15
c = 11

Homework Equations



Law of Cosine and Law of Sine

The Attempt at a Solution



since I have two sides and the angle in between, I used law of cosine to find a
a2 = 302 + 152 - 2(30)(15)cos 50
a = 23.38

then since I have angle A and the opposite side a, I used law of sine to find the other two angles

sin C / 30 = sin 50 / 23.38 = sin B / 15

the problem with this is that I get two different values of B and C

if I solve for C, then C = 79.4 and B = 50.6 (180 - 50 - 79.4)
if I solve for B, then B = 29.4 and C = 100.6

which answer would be correct?
 
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Unless I'm really confused we have A = angle between b and c and a is the length opposite of the angle A. Then law of cosines says:

a^2 = b^2 + c^2 - 2*(a)*(b)*cos(A)
a^2 = 15^2 + 11^2 - 2*(11)(15)cos(50)
a = 11.57065637
 
asura said:

Homework Statement



Solve triangle ABC...
A = 50 degrees
b= 15
c = 11

Homework Equations



Law of Cosine and Law of Sine

The Attempt at a Solution



since I have two sides and the angle in between, I used law of cosine to find a
a2 = 302 + 152 - 2(30)(15)cos 50
You were given that b = 15 and c = 11, but in your formula you used c = 30.
asura said:
a = 23.38

then since I have angle A and the opposite side a, I used law of sine to find the other two angles

sin C / 30 = sin 50 / 23.38 = sin B / 15

the problem with this is that I get two different values of B and C

if I solve for C, then C = 79.4 and B = 50.6 (180 - 50 - 79.4)
if I solve for B, then B = 29.4 and C = 100.6

which answer would be correct?
 
wow i copied the question wrong, c is supposed to be 30
for some reason i put 11...

but my question is still the same

which answer is correct
 
asura said:

Homework Statement



Solve triangle ABC...
A = 50 degrees
b= 15
c = 30

Homework Equations



Law of Cosine and Law of Sine

The Attempt at a Solution



since I have two sides and the angle in between, I used law of cosine to find a
a2 = 302 + 152 - 2(30)(15)cos 50
a = 23.38

then since I have angle A and the opposite side a, I used law of sine to find the other two angles

sin C / 30 = sin 50 / 23.38 = sin B / 15

the problem with this is that I get two different values of B and C

if I solve for C, then C = 79.4 and B = 50.6 (180 - 50 - 79.4)
if I solve for B, then B = 29.4 and C = 100.6

which answer would be correct?
(I changed your value for c, above.)
My guess is that C = 100.6 degrees is correct. From your work in finding a, you should be able to verify this by using the Law of Cosines again. This time you know b, a, and c, and you can use it to find B.
 
i appreciate the response, but that sounds like guess and check
is there a method that will always show you the correct answer?
 
The longest side of the triangle is always opposite the largest angle.
 
asura said:
i appreciate the response, but that sounds like guess and check
is there a method that will always show you the correct answer?

Yes, using the cosine law will always give you a "correct answer" because the angle lies between 0 and 180 degrees. The sine law is fine, but remember that sin(79.4) = sin(100.6), and you need to be careful with the inverse sine. [In general sin(90-x) = sin(90+x)]. You will need to use something else to verify which one is correct (like largest angle opposite longest side).
 
What do you have against "guess and check"?
 

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