Solve Two Towers Question: Minimum Length of Wire

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The problem involves two electric towers positioned 270 feet apart, with heights of 75 feet and 108 feet. The objective is to determine the optimal placement of a wire strung between the towers that minimizes its length while being anchored to the ground.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using calculus to minimize the length of the wire by finding a specific value of x. There are also suggestions to consider geometric perspectives and reflections on the problem's setup.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to approach the problem. Some have provided insights into calculus techniques, while others have raised questions about the implications of their findings. There is no explicit consensus on the next steps, but guidance has been offered regarding plotting functions and examining numerical relationships.

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Participants are navigating through the complexities of the problem, including the use of calculus and geometry. There is mention of a specific numerical result obtained through calculation, but the implications of this result remain under discussion.

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Homework Statement


I need some help with this, actually quite a bit.

Two electric towers are 270 feet apart. The tower on the left is 75 feet tall the one on the right is 108 feet tall. A wire is strung between them that is tied to the ground. Where should the wire be placed so that it is the minimum length?


Homework Equations



The towers and the wire form two right triangles, so Pythagorean theorum must be used.


The Attempt at a Solution



http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2294/towersml7.th.jpg

What I have come up with so far

total length of wire between tower A and the ground is X
total length of wire between tower B and the ground is 270-X

Total length of wire is the sum of the two wires
The formula I have so far is

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8162/equationhy8.th.jpg

beyond ths step I have no idea what I should do
 
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If you know calculus, you want to minimize Length by choosing a certain value of x.
If you know geometry, you have to think outside of the box.
If you know physics, you have to reflect on the problem a little more.
 
I've did some more looking, I'm taking this from the calculus approach.

The derivative of the function I have to find the length of the wire is:

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2492/equation2dp5.th.jpg

The next step is I set the derivative = 0, then solve for x

That's a pretty complex formula to solve so I plugged it into my ti-83 and it says that at x = 110.66 Y1 = 0

any ideas next?
 
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So, aren't you done? You found x.
(By the way, you might try to plot the Length function to see that it truly is a minimum at your value of x.)

You might find it interesting to note that
110.66 / 270 = 0.409851852
75 / (75 + 108) = 0.409836066
which are essentially the same, up to round-off errors,
and similarly,
75 / 110.66 = 0.677751672
108 / (270 - 110.66) = 0.677795908.

If you plot your result on a diagram to scale [say on graph paper], you might be able to make sense of the above numerical similarities... as well as my hints above.
 

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