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The discussion revolves around troubleshooting a relay circuit issue related to a juice delivery system designed for a bio-physicist career project. Participants explore the electrical components involved, specifically focusing on the TTL signal output from a computer's parallel port and the challenges of using a relay with a 12-volt battery and pump system.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the computer's parallel port outputs a TTL signal of 2.5 to 3.5 volts, which is lower than the expected 5V, and questions the reliability of this signal for switching.
  • Another participant mentions that different TTL standards exist, indicating that a logical high can range from 2.4V to 5V, suggesting caution in relying on this for switching purposes.
  • A suggestion is made to use a 5V DC voltage source, with the possibility of using a transistor switch to manage the relay activation.
  • Another participant proposes using a power transistor to increase the voltage sufficiently to drive the relay, while also suggesting that a solid-state solution might be preferable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the reliability of the TTL signal output and the best approach to activate the relay, indicating that multiple competing solutions are being considered without a consensus on the optimal method.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the implications of using different TTL standards or the effectiveness of the proposed solutions, such as voltage division or solid-state alternatives.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in electrical engineering, circuit design, or those pursuing careers in bio-physics may find the discussion relevant.

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Hi,

I'm new to this forum, and I'll greatly appreciate your help. If I can get this electrical/computer engineering problem solved, I'll be that much closer in pursuing a career as a bio-physicist.

With the help of my intor physics professor, I'm designing a juice delivery system in which the main components are a computer parallel port, a relay, a 12-volt battery, and a pump. As you can guess, once the computer sends the TTL signal, the relay switches to normally open, which triggers the 12V battery to turn on, which then causes liquid dispensation.

Issues:

1.) The computer's parallel port sends out a TTL signal of 2.5 to 3.5 volts, though I was told that it's supposed to output 5V.

2.) The smallest relay I can find is a 5V mini relay that Radio Shack sells. If I cannot find a smaller relay, can anyone explain to me other alternatives?

How is it that the parallel port's maximum signal is 3.5V?

Again, any help will be greatly appreciated.
 
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neuralJ said:
1.) The computer's parallel port sends out a TTL signal of 2.5 to 3.5 volts, though I was told that it's supposed to output 5V.

There are different TTL standards. As far as I know, a logical high for TTL is anywhere between 2.4V and 5V, so I wouldn't count on it for switching.

neuralJ said:
2.) The smallest relay I can find is a 5V mini relay that Radio Shack sells. If I cannot find a smaller relay, can anyone explain to me other alternatives?

If you can manage a 5V DC voltage source somehow (dividing the 12V may or may not work, I dunno) , a simple transistor switch would probably work okay.
 
You could always use a power transistor to kick the voltage up enough to drive the relay. On the other hand, if you're going to do that, you might as well make the whole thing solid state.
 
BoTemp and Danger, thank you very much.
 

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