Solving a Boundary Value Problem: y + y = 0 ; 0<x<2π, y(0)=0 , y(2π)=1

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The discussion revolves around a boundary value problem defined by the differential equation y" + y = 0 for the interval 0 < x < 2π, with boundary conditions y(0) = 0 and y(2π) = 1. Participants are exploring the implications of these conditions on the existence of solutions.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the general solution y = c1sin(x) + c2cos(x) and the implications of applying the boundary conditions. There is a focus on the contradiction arising from the boundary conditions leading to different values for c2. Some participants question whether the problem statement is complete or correctly formatted.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants examining the validity of the boundary conditions and the nature of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the distinction between boundary value problems and initial value problems, but no consensus has been reached regarding the existence of solutions.

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There are indications that the problem may have been misinterpreted or inadequately specified, with suggestions that additional information or corrections to the boundary conditions might be necessary.

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Homework Statement
Determine all the solutions, if any, to the given boundary value problem by first finding a general solution to the differential equation:

y" + y = 0 ; 0<x<2π
y(0)=0 , y(2π)=1


The attempt at a solution

So the general solution is given by: y = c1sin(x) + c2cos(x)

Substituting in the boundary conditions we get:

y(0)=0=c2 ==> c2=0
y(2π)=1=c2 ==> c2=1

Since the above is contradictory, does it mean that there are no solutions to this boundary value problem?
 
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I would agree with that since both do not yield the same value for c2.
 
Maybe one of the initial conditions was missing a prime after the y?
 
I'm betting Bohrok is right. I always thought it was odd, but nearly every initial value problem I see specifies, y' and y. Rarely or ever, two points, y(a)=c, y(b)=d.

Minor clarification:
Should it be 0<= x <= 2[itex]\prod[/itex]?
Technically, as given it's an invalid problem.
 
The way I've written the problem is exactly how it's given in the textbook (Fundamentals of Differential Equations, 7th edition, section 10.2, question 6).
 
The problem specifically said "Determine all the solutions, if any, to the given boundary value problem". Being given y(0) and y'(0) would be an initial value problem, not a boundary value problem. The correct "answer" here is that there is no solution.

Note, by the way that the same d.e. with boundary condition y(0)= 0, [itex]y(2\pi)= 0[/itex] would have [itex]y(x)= Csin(x)[/itex] for any C.

The "existence and uniqueness" of solutions to an initial value problem depend only on the equation. For a boundary value problem, they depend on the boundary values also.
 

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