Solving a Bus Direction Change Problem

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The problem involves a bus changing direction from a bearing of 190° to south-east while maintaining its speed of 65 km/h. The objective is to find the change in velocity of the bus using vector components.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the change in velocity using x and y components of the vectors before and after the direction change. They express uncertainty about the accuracy of their answer without a diagram.
  • Some participants suggest that while using components is viable, it introduces potential issues, particularly regarding direction definitions and the complexity of calculations.
  • Questions arise about the process of reversing a vector and the importance of visual aids like diagrams in understanding vector addition and direction changes.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of diagrams and the importance of clearly defining directions, but no consensus has been reached on the best method to solve the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenges of accurately representing vector directions and the potential for mistakes when relying solely on numerical calculations without visual aids.

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Homework Statement



A bus traveling at 65km/h on a bearing of 190° changes direction to south-east and continues at the same speed. Find the change in velocity of the bus.

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I'm fairly hopeless at drawing the diagrams for these questions so I calculated the x and y components for both before and after the change in direction and i got:
65cos190=-64.01
65sin190=-11.29
65cos135=-45.96
65sin135=45.96
then i substracted vector 1 from vector 2 and got:
x=-45.96+64.01
y=45.96+11.29 (double - is positive)
x=18.05
y=57.25
thus r is √(18.05^2+57.25^2)=60.018
and the change in direction is thus inverse tan(57.25/18.05)=72.5 degrees
Is it viable to get an accurate answer without a diagram? And am I correct?
 
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It is viable to use components to get an answer, but the method intrduces problems that you need to take care of when you use it.

* You need to define your directions formally, in words, and be careful about them. i.e.
... what are the x and y directions here? If +y is due north, and bearing is taken clockwise from due north, then cos(bearing) would be the y component.

If you used a diagram, the diagram provides the definitions as well as a handy reality check.

* You have extra steps to keep track of, with the extra minus signs and rounding errors this implies, providing more opportunity to make mistakes. Mistakes that will be hard to see from just the numbers.


With a protractor, the diagram is easy to draw.
The two vectors are the same length, 190deg is 10deg E of S, and SE is 45deg E of S.
Take the initial vector, reverse it, and put it's tail on the head of the final vector (final minus initial). The resultant goes from tail to head, forming an isosceles triangle with an apex angle of 35deg. The direction of the change, therefore, is easily produced exactly (no rounding needed) off the diagram.

You should practice drawing vectors and using triangles.
The skill becomes more important as you go on.
 
How do I reverse a vector?
 
Swap the head and the tail over.
 

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