Solving a Differential Equation: 2y(1+x^2)y' + x(1+y^2) = 0

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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation of the form 2y(1 + x²)y' + x(1 + y²) = 0, with an initial condition provided. Participants are exploring various methods to approach the problem and are considering the implications of given answer choices.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss integrating the equation and the resulting logarithmic forms. There is a focus on how to manipulate these forms to match the provided answer choices.
  • Some participants question the correctness of their algebraic manipulations, particularly regarding the handling of logarithmic expressions and the implications of the initial condition.
  • Others suggest checking the provided answers directly against the original equation instead of pursuing integration.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively sharing their reasoning and questioning their approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of logarithmic properties and the potential for direct substitution of the answer choices into the original equation.

Contextual Notes

Participants are required to show their mathematical work for each answer, which adds a layer of complexity to their attempts at solving the differential equation. There is also a noted concern about a specific sign in their calculations that may affect the outcome.

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Homework Statement



Solve the differential equation 2y(1 + x2 )y'+ x(1 + y2 ) = 0 where y = 2 when x = 0.
given answers are
a. (1 + x2 )(1 + y2 )2= 0
b. (1 + x2 )2 (1 + y2 ) = 25
c. (1 + x2 )2 (1 + y2 )2= 0
d. (1 + x2 )(1 + y2 ) = 0
e. (1 + x2 )(1 + y2 )2= 25

The Attempt at a Solution



2y(1+x2)dy/dx+x(1+y2)=0
2y(1+x2)dy/dx=-x(1+y2)
2y/(1+y2)dy = -x/(1+x2)dx

if i integrate these i end up with ln in the equations. so i don't know how to do it so it relates to the given answers?
 
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Exponentiate both sides to get rid of the log, and you should get one of the answers.
 
if i keep going from where i left off.. after integrating you get:

ln(1+y2) = - ln(1+x2)/2

then taking off log of both sides leaves

(1+y2) = -(1+x2)/2

take all onto one side gives:

2(1+y2)+(1+x2)

where did i go wrong?
 
If you are given answers to select from, you don't need to integrate at all. Just put each of the possible answer into the equation and see if it satisfies it!

"Taking the log off" both sides of ln(1+y^2)= ln(1+ x^2)/2 does NOT give "1+ y^2= (1+ x^2)/2: the "2" in the denominator is not inside the logarithm. Instead, write it as ln(1+ y^2)= ln((1+ x^2)^{1/2}) so that 1+ y^2= (1+ x^2)^{1/2} or (1+ y^2)^2= 1+ x^2.
 
haha i have to show how i got every answer, mathematically. otheriwse yeah id trial and error the questions i couldn't do.

the denominator there is where i thought i went wrong.

i think i know the answer but its that one sign i can't get rid of.

from the start:

2y(1+x2)dy/dx+x(1+y2)=0
2y(1+x2)dy/dx=-x(1+y2)
2y/(1+y2)dy = -x/(1+x2)dx
then integrate
ln(1+y2) = - ln(1+x2)/2
which becomes
2ln(1+y2) = - ln(1+x2)
take 2 and into logarithm
ln((1+y2)2) = - ln(1+x2)

waittt... ifi take -1 into logarithm then i get an inverse funtion, which will get rid of the plus/minus sign...

then sub in y=2 and x=0


Thanks!
 

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