Solving a Difficult Homework Equation

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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation involving power series and substitutions. Participants are exploring the implications of a substitution for \( x^2 \) and its effect on the series representation of the solution.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of a substitution \( u = x^2 \) to simplify the series. Questions arise regarding the correctness of this substitution and its impact on the series' indices. There is also an exploration of how to combine the resulting series and concerns about loose terms in the equations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the correctness of the derivative \( y' \) and questioned the necessity of the substitution. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding the series combination, with some participants expressing a desire to verify their work through alternative methods.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of series manipulation and the implications of their substitutions, indicating a potential lack of clarity in the problem setup or assumptions made during the process.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


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I decided to make a substitution for x2 so that x2 = u. By doing that, I could make the k=n+1 and k=n-1 substitutions so I can keep the series in phase. I took y' and just plugged everything into the DE. In the 2xy part, I just pulled the x into y so that I get the x2n+1 term. However, I can't seem to combine the series in one without having a loose term included (the first term of the y' series). I get the combined series with the loose term, all equal to zero - and I don't know where to go from there.
 
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I'm not sure why you would need ##u = x^2##. What did you get for ##y'##?
 
The question is simply asking you to find ##\frac{d}{dx} [ \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^n}{n!} x^{2n} ]## and then use it along with ##y## to show the equation is satisfied.
 
@PeroK

I thought making that substitution would make the series easier to work with in terms of getting each series in phase. With that substitution, I get:

y' = sum_n=1..inf 2n(-1)nx2n-1 / n! = sum_n=1..inf 2(-1)nun-1 / (n-1)!
(canceled out the n's)

and for 2xy (using the same substitution) I get:

2xy = sum_n=0..inf 2(-1)nun+1 / n!

But if I let k=n-1 for y' and k=n+1 for y, I can make both indices of summation start at the same number, k=1 if I shift the y' series up so that it starts at n=2. I get the following:

y'+2xy=0
→ -2 + sum_k=1..inf 2(-1)k+1uk / (k)! + sum_k=1..inf 2(-1)k-1uk / (k-1)! = 0

I can combine the two series, but after that, I'm not sure what to do. @Zondrina

Yeah, that's why I'm not sure why this problem is causing difficulties for me. I was hoping it would be an easy substitute, but I keep running into the same issue above.
 
24karatbear said:
@PeroK

I thought making that substitution would make the series easier to work with in terms of getting each series in phase. With that substitution, I get:

y' = sum_n=1..inf 2n(-1)nx2n-1 / n! = sum_n=1..inf 2(-1)nun-1 / (n-1)!
(canceled out the n's)

You got ##y'## right, but the you've gone astray with the pointless substitution ##u=x^2##.

##u^{n-1} = x^{2n-2} \ne x^{2n-1}##
 
PeroK said:
You got ##y'## right, but the you've gone astray with the pointless substitution ##u=x^2##.

##u^{n-1} = x^{2n-2} \ne x^{2n-1}##

I see. Yeah, I tried to make that substitution because I needed a way to get the series in phase with each other / make their indices of summation the same and couldn't think of anything else. I see where I went wrong though.

Anyway, I just decided to write out the terms and verify it that way. Thanks for the help!
 

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