Solving a Double Integral: 0.23 Numerically, Analytically Possible?

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The discussion revolves around solving a double integral of the function \(\sin(y^2)\) over a specified region defined by the limits \(0 \leq x \leq 1\) and \(x \leq y \leq 1\). Participants are exploring both numerical and analytical methods to evaluate the integral.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants share numerical results obtained using software and inquire about the possibility of an analytical solution. Others suggest changing the order of integration as a potential approach but express uncertainty about how to do so.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning how to properly set up the integral after changing the order of integration. Guidance has been offered regarding sketching the region of integration to aid in understanding the constraints involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need to translate the original limits of integration into new constraints when reversing the order of integration, indicating a focus on geometric interpretation of the problem.

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Homework Statement


Solve double integral
[tex]\int^1_0\int^1_x\sin(y^2)dydx[/tex]


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The Attempt at a Solution


I got with Wolfram Mathematica 7.0 result 0.23 numerically. Can it be solved analyticaly?
 
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LagrangeEuler said:

Homework Statement


Solve double integral
[tex]\int^1_0\int^1_x\sin(y^2)dydx[/tex]

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


I got with Wolfram Mathematica 7.0 result 0.23 numerically. Can it be solved analyticaly?
Yes, it can be solved analytically. Change the order of integration.
 
I'm not sure how?
 
At present, you're integrating over a set of points (x,y) with

(1) 0 ≤ x ≤ 1
(2) x ≤ y ≤ 1

If you're going to reverse the order of integration, you need two new restraints:

(1') (some number) ≤ y ≤ (some other number)
(2') (some number or an expression with y) ≤ x ≤ (another expression that may contain y)

Try sketching this set on a piece of paper and translate (1),(2) to a geometric shape and that back again to (1'),(2'). Then you can rewrite your integral:
$$
\int_{(1)}\int_{(2)} \sin(y^2)\, \mathrm dy \, \mathrm dx = \int_{(1')}\int_{(2')}\sin(y^2) \, \mathrm dx \, \mathrm dy
$$
 
LagrangeEuler said:
I'm not sure how?

Draw the region you are integrating over. It's a triangle in the xy plane, right? Then just set the integration up so you do dx first then dy.
 
LagrangeEuler said:
I'm not sure how?

Dick said:
Draw the region you are integrating over. It's a triangle in the xy plane, right? Then just set the integration up so you do dx first then dy.

To add to what Dick said, whenever a situation arises where you're considering changing the order of integration, it's alway a good idea to sketch the region over which integration is taking place.
 

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