Solving a Lightning Storm Homework Problem

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The problem involves calculating the amount of sap that can be boiled away from a tree due to energy transferred during a lightning storm, given a specific potential difference and charge. The context includes concepts from electricity and thermodynamics.

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  • Participants discuss the energy calculations based on the potential difference and charge, with one participant questioning the formula used for energy absorption. Others verify the original poster's calculations and suggest potential issues with the problem setup or interpretation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing validation of the calculations while others raise questions about the assumptions made regarding energy absorption. There is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the approach, but suggestions for further inquiry with an instructor have been made.

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Participants note the possibility of issues related to significant figures or the interpretation of energy transfer, as well as the specific conditions under which the storm cloud's energy is considered.

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Homework Statement



A certain storm cloud has a potential of 1.50 x 10^8 V relative to a tree. If, during a lightning storm, 50.0 C of charge is transferred through this potential difference and 1.00% of the energy is absorbed by the tree, how much sap in the tree can be boiled away? Model the sap as water initially at 26.0°C. Water has a specific heat of 4186 J/(kg·C°), a boiling point of 100°C, and a latent heat of vaporization of 2.26 x 10^6 J/kg.


Homework Equations



I'm actually kinda iffy on all the equations, but I got several answers that WebAssign told me was wrong...

The Attempt at a Solution



Energy gain of 50.0 C of charge accelerated through potential difference of (1.50 x 10^8 V) is (50.0 C)(1.50 x 10^8 V) = 7.5 x 10^9 J.

To vaporize 1 kilogram of sap requires mcΔT = (1 kg)(4186 J/kg K)(100 - 26 degrees C) = 3.098 x 10^(5) J to heat to 100 degrees C

An additional 2.26 x 10^6 J for the state change from liquid to gas, for a total required energy of 3.098 x 10^(5) + 2.26 x 10^6 = 2.57 x 10^6 J.

The total energy absorbed is 1% of 7.5 x 10^9 = 7.5 x 10^7 J, and at 2.57 x 10^6 J per kg needed, we are able to vaporize:

(7.5 x 10^7 J)/(2.57 x 10^6 J/kg) = 29.19 kg of sap.

WebAssign says it's wrong.

Please tell me where I went wrong.
It isn't due for a few days, I just wanted to get this assignment out of the way... Last question.

Thanks!
 
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WebAssign is evil. I see nothing wrong with your solution - your method is OK and I verified your numbers. It may be a matter of sig figs or (perish the thought) the wrong calculated formula has been put into the problem. I suggest that you take your solution to your instructor and ask him/her to find what is wrong with it. Do this before the deadline.
 


Sorry to bring up an old thread, but I was under the impression that the energy absorbed by the tree will be equal to 1/2QV, and not QV. I'd be curious to hear what others have to say about this.

Thanks,

Tom
 


That would be true if you had a capacitor with 50C on it that you let completely discharge.
The question doesn't say that the stormcloud completely discharges however.
 


I see what you're saying. Thanks.
 

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