Solving a logarithmic equation.

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The problem involves solving the logarithmic equation log3(x) + log3(2x + 1) = 1, where participants are attempting to find the value of x.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the transformation of the logarithmic equation into a quadratic form and the subsequent application of the quadratic formula. Questions arise regarding the validity of the solutions obtained, particularly concerning the definition of logarithms and the implications of negative values.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the solutions derived from the quadratic equation, with some participants identifying one solution as extraneous. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the implications of the solutions in the context of logarithmic definitions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that logarithms are undefined for negative values, which influences the interpretation of the solutions found. The presence of extraneous solutions is also a point of discussion.

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Homework Statement


log3x+log3(2x+1)=1
Solve for x.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


log3((2x+1)x)=1
3log3((2x+1))=31
(2x+1)x=3
2x2+x=3
2x2+x-3=0

Using the quadratic formula
x= (-1±√(12-4(2)(-3)))/(2(2))
= (-1±√(1+24))/(4)
= (-1±√25)/(4)
= (-1±5)/(4)
= 4/4 or -6/4

Is there no solution?
 
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What's wrong with the two solutions you got from solving the quadratic eqn.?
 
Logarithms with negative values are undefined though aren't they? So only 4/4 or 1 would be correct?
 
thatguythere said:

Homework Statement


log3x+log3(2x+1)=1
Solve for x.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


log3((2x+1)x)=1
3log3((2x+1))=31
(2x+1)x=3
2x2+x=3
2x2+x-3=0

Using the quadratic formula
x= (-1±√(12-4(2)(-3)))/(2(2))
= (-1±√(1+24))/(4)
= (-1±√25)/(4)
= (-1±5)/(4)
= 4/4 or -6/4

Is there no solution?

You should simplify answers such as these. You have x = 1 or x = -3/2. There is still some work to do, though.
 
thatguythere said:
Logarithms with negative values are undefined though aren't they? So only 4/4 or 1 would be correct?
Yes, the other answer is what's called an extraneous solution.
 
Mark44 said:
You should simplify answers such as these. You have x = 1 or x = -3/2. There is still some work to do, though.

If I have x =1 and x =-3/2 and I know that -3/2 is an extraneous answer, then x = 1. I am not certain what else there is to do.
 
If you've checked your solution and it works, you're done.
 

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