Solving a Root Equation for the Variable r

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The discussion revolves around rearranging equations to solve for variables, specifically focusing on the equations involving roots and algebraic manipulation. The subject area includes algebra and equation solving techniques.

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  • Participants explore how to isolate variables in equations, question the steps involved in rearranging terms, and discuss the implications of squaring and taking square roots. There is also a focus on simplifying expressions and the treatment of surds in denominators.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on algebraic manipulation and questioning assumptions about the variables involved. There are multiple interpretations of the steps required to simplify expressions and solve for variables, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

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Participants express uncertainty about the validity of their approaches and the necessity of certain algebraic conventions, such as rationalizing denominators and the implications of variable signs.

  • #31
sorry, latex isn't working...
v^{2} = u^{2} + av^{\frac{x}5} <br /> <br /> 1. Rearrange to x<br /> 2. Rearrange to get v
 
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  • #32
1. Easy
2. Forget it.
 
  • #33
okay. If you say it's easy ill believe you.

Just, somthing about surds.

Simplify

http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/img/ma_surd25.gif"

can you show me the steps you did it in
 
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  • #34
I don't see that any rewriting of that expression is any simpler than the one given.
 
  • #35
youre not suppost to leave surds on the bottom. Apparently the answer should be

http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/img/ma_surd28.gif"

But I looked at their method and it looked dogdy. Is the answer

\frac{3(\sqrt{6} - \sqrt{2})}4

as the link above looks like it's 3/4 multiplied by root 6 - root 2
 
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  • #36
okay, so whenever you've got a surd in your denominator, you are to rationalize it. Fine by me; mind you, that is THEIR choice, not everybody's else's choice.

Remember that 1=\frac{\sqrt{6}-\sqrt{2}}{\sqrt{6}-\sqrt{2}}
See if you can use that to derive their answer.
 
  • #37
\frac{3}{(\sqrt{6} + \sqrt{2})}

\frac{3(\sqrt{6} - \sqrt{2})}{(\sqrt{6} + \sqrt{2})(\sqrt{6} - \sqrt{2})}

use smilie face method on denominator

root 6 x root 6 = 6
root 2 x - root 2 = - 2

root 6 x - root 2 = - root 12
root 6 x root 2 = root 12

- root 12 and root 12 cancel each other out. 6 - 2 = 4



leaving you with
\frac{3(\sqrt{6} - \sqrt{2})}4

am I right or am I right?
 
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  • #38
Indeed you are right. Here is a true smilie for you: :smile:
 
  • #39
Okay. I've got some more problems i wish to solve

Express
\frac{1}{x - 2} + \frac{2}{x+4}
as a single algergraic faction
 
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  • #40
So, what is the least common multiple of the denominators?
 
  • #41
would it be 2?
 
  • #42
Does x-2 divide 2?? Does x+4 divide 2??
 
  • #43
is it (x-2)(x+4) = x² -8 + 2x
 
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  • #44
ahh me thinks you cross multiply?

\frac{x+4 + 2(x-2)}{(x-2)(x+4)}
 
  • #45
I do not cross-multiply here either, I EXPAND both fractions in the manner you've just done.
 
  • #46
To add the fractions I need to find a common denominator right?
What ever I do to the denominator I must do to the numerator right?
So how do I find the lost common mulitple of x-2 and x+4?


Thanks
 
  • #47
You've done it just fine, as I've said.
Just don't call it cross-multiplication.
 
  • #48
so I am at \frac{3x}{x^{2}+2x-8}
now where to? That's not the final answer is it?
 
  • #49
Looks final to me, given your task to find a SINGLE algebraic fraction identical to the given sum.
 
  • #50
Ive looked this up on an old test paper, and apparently the answer is 1/3

The final step before the answer I've written

3x / ((x-2)(x+4))

but I don't know how I got 1/3...do you?
 
  • #51
That's impossible.
you have most likely miscopied the original problem.
 
  • #52
Ok, must of done. Now interestly the next question on the paper is

Hence or otherwise sove

\frac{1}{x-2} + \frac{2}{x+4} = \frac{1}{3}

so I will EXPAND the fractions (or cross multiply)?
this will give me

9x = x² - 2x + 4x - 8
so this is a quadratic. - 9x

x² -7x + 8 = 0
(x + 1)(x-8) = 0
so x = -1 or x= 8

that correct?
 
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  • #53
Which is a totally different issue altogether!
What you have there is an EQUATION, what you said before was that that equality was an IDENTITY (which is NOT correct).
 
  • #54
aha i see
to solve it then

\frac{1}{x-2} + \frac{2}{x+4} = \frac{1}{3}

so I will EXPAND the fractions (or cross multiply)?
this will give me

9x = x² - 2x + 4x - 8
so this is a quadratic. - 9x

x² -7x + 8 = 0
(x + 1)(x-8) = 0
so x = -1 or x= 8

that correct?
 
  • #55
Seems so, yes.
 
  • #56
O, right first time...

Now here's a hard one I don't get

Find the value of

m when \sqrt{128} = 2^{m}

I no straight away from binary that 2^7 is 128 does that help?
 
  • #57
Indeed it helps!
Remember how roots can be written as exponents..
 
  • #58
\frac{7}{2}

but how would i solve it normally?
 
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  • #59
Indeed, that is what m equals, as soon as you get the LateX right..:smile:
 
  • #60
but say if i didn't know about binary how would i got about solving it
somthing to do with surds isn't it?
 

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