Solving a Second Order Differential Equation: $$xy''-y'=3x^2$$

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The discussion revolves around solving a second-order differential equation of the form $$xy'' - y' = 3x^{2}$$, with participants exploring the transformation of variables and the application of integrating factors.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the expressions $$\frac{1}{x}p' - \frac{1}{x^{2}}p$$ and $$[\frac{1}{x}p]'$$, seeking clarification on how to derive one from the other using the product rule.

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Some participants have expressed understanding of the mathematical relationships discussed, while others continue to seek clarification on the application of the product rule in the context of integrating factors and differential equations.

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Participants are working within the constraints of homework rules, focusing on understanding the steps involved in manipulating differential equations without providing complete solutions.

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$$ xy'' - y' = 3x^{2} $$
$$ y' = p $$
$$ y'' = p' $$
$$ xp' - p =3x^{2} $$
$$ p' - \frac{1}{x}p = 3x $$
after multiplying by the integrating factor we get..
$$ \frac{1}{x}p' - \frac{1}{x^{2}}p =3 $$
so $$ [\frac{1}{x}p]' = 3? $$

I know that these two below are equal, but can someone please show HOW
$$ \frac{1}{x}p' - \frac{1}{x^{2}}p $$ equals $$[\frac{1}{x}p]' $$

Thank you!
 
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vanceEE said:
$$ xy'' - y' = 3x^{2} $$
$$ y' = p $$
$$ y'' = p' $$
$$ xp' - p =3x^{2} $$
$$ p' - \frac{1}{x}p = 3x $$
after multiplying by the integrating factor we get..
$$ \frac{1}{x}p' - \frac{1}{x^{2}}p =3 $$
so $$ [\frac{1}{x}p]' = 3? $$

I know that these two below are equal, but can someone please show HOW
$$ \frac{1}{x}p' - \frac{1}{x^{2}}p $$ equals $$[\frac{1}{x}p]' $$

Thank you!

You want to find d/dx of the product (1/x)*p(x). Use the product rule.
 
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vanceEE said:
I know that these two below are equal, but can someone please show HOW
$$ \frac{1}{x}p' - \frac{1}{x^{2}}p $$ equals $$[\frac{1}{x}p]' $$

Thank you!

Use the product rule on that last equation.
 
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Awesome, I now understand that part. Now for any equation $$y' + a(x)y = b(x)$$ after multiplying the integrating factor, will my left side always be... $$ [e^{∫a(x) dx} * y]' ?$$
 
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I think you can answer your own question. is$$
\left(e^{∫a(x) dx} * y' + e^{∫a(x) dx} a(x)y\right)$$
the derivative of $$
e^{∫a(x) dx} * y$$
 
yes, thank you LCKurtz!
 

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