Solving a Simple Circuit involving Current Source by the Loop Current Method

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The discussion revolves around solving a circuit using the loop current method, focusing on determining the current through a 4Ω resistor and the voltage change across a current source. The circuit is divided into three loops with designated currents A, B, and C, leading to the formulation of three equations based on Kirchhoff's laws. The user is uncertain about how to incorporate the 1 amp current from the source into their equations, initially assuming both A and B equal 1, which resulted in an overdetermined system. A suggestion is made to relate the currents by stating A + B = 1, allowing for substitution to create a solvable system. The importance of applying both Kirchhoff's Current and Loop Rules is emphasized for accurate results.
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Homework Statement


For the resistor network in the picture, use loop currents to find the current through the 4Ω resistor and the change in voltage E across the current source.

Circuit Attached Below .

Homework Equations



  • Kirchoffs Laws
  • Loop Current Method
  • V=IR

The Attempt at a Solution



Firstly I divided the circuit into 3 loops with 3 currents.
  1. Top left Loop, Current A
  2. Top right Loop, Current B
  3. Bottom Loop, Current C

Looking For
  • Voltage Change,E, across the current source
  • Current A
  • Current B
  • Current C

Now I apply Kirchoffs laws for every loop. I go around in a counter clockwise manner and get the total drop in voltage for each.
  • Loop A: -E+A+2(A-C)=0
  • Loop B: E+(B-C)+2(B)=0
  • Loop C: 12+(C-B)+2(C-A)+4C=0

Now i have 3 equations, but 4 unknowns,

So i need another equation coming from the current provided from the current source to get a system of equations and solve it.
But i know that the current source provides a current of 1amp for the loop, however this is where I am not sure how to proceed,
does it mean that both A and B = 1 or A=1 only? How do i know which current the source affects?

I proceeded with the assumption that both A and B both equal one, but got an overdetermined system with no solution.

On second though maybe, both currents are related by let's say, the source gives out current = 1amp, so loop 1 and 2 share this current so, currents A+B=1 sort of thing? Proceed by substituting A=1-B into the system of equations and get 3 unknowns 3 equations?

Just need some checking on this fact and the rest of the problem is pretty straight forward.
Thanks in Advance.
 

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Lemm said:

On second though maybe, both currents are related by let's say, the source gives out current = 1amp, so loop 1 and 2 share this current so, currents A+B=1 sort of thing? Proceed by substituting A=1-B into the system of equations and get 3 unknowns 3 equations?

Just need some checking on this fact and the rest of the problem is pretty straight forward.
Thanks in Advance.


There are two Kirchhoff's rules, one for the currents at nodes, the other for voltages in a loop.
You need to know them, and then it is not a possibility but the truth what your "second thought" is.

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