Solving a Simple Differential Equation: y''+y=5cos(x)

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The discussion revolves around solving the differential equation y'' + y = 5cos(x), which falls under the subject area of differential equations. Participants are exploring methods to find a particular solution while considering the solutions to the homogeneous equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use known solutions and equations but expresses confusion about the next steps. Some participants suggest generating a particular solution by multiplying the homogeneous solutions by powers of x. Others question the specific terms to multiply and explore the implications of using trigonometric functions in the context of the equation.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering suggestions and clarifications. There is a recognition of the need to adjust the guess for the particular solution due to the presence of trigonometric functions in the homogeneous solution. While there is no explicit consensus, several productive directions have been proposed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the particular solution must be linearly independent from the homogeneous solutions and that the original poster's approach may require adjustments based on the structure of the equation.

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Homework Statement


y''+y=5cos(x)


Homework Equations



y=Acos(x)+Bsin(x)
e^ix=cos(x)+isin(x)

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried using compbinations of these equations to try and solve but I'm lost. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
 
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y=Acos(x)+Bsin(x)

is the solution to the homogenous equation. The particular solution must be linearly independent from them. Try multiplying by some power of x to generate a guess for the particular solution.
 
try multiplying what by a power of x?
 
physicsnewb7 said:
try multiplying what by a power of x?

The solutions to the homogeneous equation. Try A xa cos x and B xb sin x and see if a and b can be chosen to get a solution.
 
is y= -2.5xcos(x) right?
 
Recheck your algebra, the sin term is actually the particular solution.
 
oh yeah i know i put cos by accident, but that is the solution right? I arrived at this solution by a long trial and error method. any way to quickly get at it in general?
 
physicsnewb7 said:
oh yeah i know i put cos by accident, but that is the solution right? I arrived at this solution by a long trial and error method. any way to quickly get at it in general?

You have a trig function on the RHS, so the particular solution must be related to a trig function. The sin and cos are already used in the solutions to the homogeneous equations, so the particular solution can't just be sin or cos. Hence you try powers of x times sin and cos. It's just a matter of substituting the guess into the equation and examining powers and coefficients. You could even guess that you should try x cos x and x sin x because there are no powers of x on the RHS.
 
Thank you very much you have been very helpful. I appreciate it
 

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