Solving an Electric Field Problem in Equilateral Triangle Geometry

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The discussion focuses on calculating distances in an equilateral triangle, specifically from a corner to its center and from the midpoint of a baseline to the center. The height of the triangle is derived using the Pythagorean theorem, resulting in a height of approximately 1.732. There is confusion regarding whether the distance from the center to the midpoint of the baseline and from the corner to the center can both equal 0.866, which contradicts the property that all corners should be equidistant from the center. Clarifications suggest that the correct approach involves using trigonometric relationships and recognizing that the distance from the corner to the center is not simply 0.866. Accurate calculations and geometric principles are essential to resolve the discrepancies in these distances.
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This is from a electric field problem I'm trying to solve. This part I'm asking is geometry. I'm trying to find the distance from a corner of a equilateral triangle to its center. Also, I have to find the distance from the midpoint of a baseline to the center of the triangle.

Let's assume each side length is 2. Let's also assume that a corner lies at the top and the 2 other corners lie at the bottom like this pic http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...quilateral.svg . So I divide the triangle in half to find its height through the pythagorean theorem. 2^2-(2/2)^2=3. sqrt(3)=height. Then I divided the height by 2 and got .866 (using decimals cause idk how to type a square root symbol.) So wouldn't the .866 be the distance from the center to the midpoint of the baseline? Also, wouldn't it make it the distance from the top corner of the triangle to the center?? If that's the case doesn't that contradict the belief that all 3 corners have the same distance to the center of a equilateral triangle.

But when you calculate the distance from the corner to the center. You use the pythagorean thereom again. You have 1 for the base length and .866 for the height right? That gives you a hypotenuse of sqrt(1.75) which doesn't equal .866?

Can someone explain this to me please.
 
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pyroknife said:
This is from a electric field problem I'm trying to solve. This part I'm asking is geometry. I'm trying to find the distance from a corner of a equilateral triangle to its center. Also, I have to find the distance from the midpoint of a baseline to the center of the triangle.

Let's assume each side length is 2. Let's also assume that a corner lies at the top and the 2 other corners lie at the bottom like this pic http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...quilateral.svg . So I divide the triangle in half to find its height through the pythagorean theorem. 2^2-(2/2)^2=3. sqrt(3)=height. Then I divided the height by 2 and got .866 (using decimals cause idk how to type a square root symbol.) So wouldn't the .866 be the distance from the center to the midpoint of the baseline? Also, wouldn't it make it the distance from the top corner of the triangle to the center?? If that's the case doesn't that contradict the belief that all 3 corners have the same distance to the center of a equilateral triangle.

But when you calculate the distance from the corner to the center. You use the pythagorean thereom again. You have 1 for the base length and .866 for the height right? That gives you a hypotenuse of sqrt(1.75) which doesn't equal .866?

Can someone explain this to me please.

You DO NOT divide height by 2 to find the distance to the center. The center lies along an angle bisector from each corner. Draw another triangle. Use trig.
 
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Okay so the new triangle you draw. The hypotenuse goes from the corner to the center right? And the base would be 1 and the height would be .866? Also, is the midpoint of the base to the center .866 also
 
sin(30°) = 1/2
cos(30°) = \frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}

In a 30-60-90 triangle (angles), the sides have relationships 1 - 2 - \sqrt{3}, where side of relative length 2 is on the hypotenuse.

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Okay so the new triangle you draw. The hypotenuse goes from the corner to the center right? And the base would be 1 and the height would be .866? Also, is the midpoint of the base to the center .866 also

The base would be 1 and the vertex angle would be pi/6, right? That doesn't make the height sqrt(3)/2. It's different.
 
After looking at gneill's picture please say you know the height isn't .866. FAST. You seem to be stuck on that.
 
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