Solving Atom Velocity in Non-relativistic Limit

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The discussion revolves around determining the velocity of an atom after photon emission, specifically in the context of the non-relativistic limit. The original poster presents a series of equations related to energy and momentum conservation, seeking clarification on the implications of the non-relativistic limit in their calculations.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the atom's velocity using conservation laws but expresses uncertainty about the non-relativistic limit. Participants discuss the implications of this limit, suggesting that the final velocity should be much smaller than the speed of light and that the change in energy should be small compared to the rest mass energy.

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Some participants have provided insights into the non-relativistic limit and suggested expanding the expression in a power series. However, there is a divergence in preferences regarding the use of power series, with some expressing reluctance to employ them.

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The original poster's approach involves assumptions about energy levels and the relationship between energy change and velocity, which are under discussion. There is also a mention of homework constraints regarding simplification methods.

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Hello,
I have an atom of mass M which is on an energy level of E1. After emitting a photon, it comes down to a lower level E0. The question is - what's the velocity of the atom after the photon emission? And it says to simplify the expression using the "non-relativistic limit". I'm not sure what the last phrase means, can anyone please explain?

Here's my solution of the problem:

[tex]\Delta E = E_1 - E_0[/tex]

From conservation of momentum we have:

[tex]M v + \frac{h \nu}{c} = 0[/tex]

[tex]\nu = -\frac{M c v}{h}[/tex]

And from conservation of energy:

[tex]\Delta E = h\nu + \frac{M v^2}{2}[/tex]

Substituting [tex]\nu[/tex] we get:

[tex]M v^2 - 2 M c v - 2\Delta E = 0[/tex]

[tex]v_{1,2} = \frac{2 M c +/- \sqrt{4 M^2 c^2 + 8 M \Delta E}}{2 M}[/tex]

Since [tex]v < c[/tex] we must choose:

[tex]v = c - \sqrt{c^2 + \frac{2 \Delta E}{M}}[/tex]

And now I need to simplify this expression. I guessed that the limit should be:

[tex]\frac{\Delta E}{M c^2}[/tex] -> 0

But I'm really not sure. Does anyone have any idea?


Thanks,
Chen
 
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Yes, the nonrelativistic limit assumes that the final velocity of the atom is much smaller than c. Equivalently, the change in energy is small compared to the rest mass energy. You should expand that last expression in a power series.
 
Great, thanks. Although ideologically, I like to avoid power series whenever possible:

[tex]v = c - \sqrt{c^2 + \frac{2 \Delta E}{M}} = \frac{c^2 - c^2 - \frac{2 \Delta E}{M}}{c + \sqrt{c^2 + \frac{2 \Delta E}{M}}} = \frac{- \frac{2 \Delta E}{M c}}{1 + \sqrt{1 + \frac{2 \Delta E}{M c^2}}} = - \frac{\Delta E}{M c}[/tex]

Chen
 
Don't like power series? But power series are your friends! Why don't you want to hang out with your friends? Haha. :smile:
 
They're ok, but it would be such an overkill to expand this expression into a series... :)
 

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