Solving Boat Motor Engine Equations w/ Integration

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The discussion revolves around solving equations related to the motion of a motorboat engine, specifically focusing on the relationship between the forces acting on the boat, including a constant force from the engine and a drag force proportional to velocity. The goal is to find the velocity as a function of time, v(t).

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the integration of the equation derived from the forces acting on the motorboat. There are attempts to isolate variables for integration, with some participants suggesting methods to rearrange the equation. Questions arise regarding the treatment of constants and the necessity of definite integrals.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the integration process. There is a focus on ensuring the correct setup for integration, including the suggestion to use definite integrals. Multiple interpretations of the integration process are being explored.

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Participants note the initial conditions of the problem, such as the starting velocity being zero, and discuss the implications of constants in the equations. There is an emphasis on the need to clarify assumptions regarding the forces involved.

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Homework Statement


turning on the engine of a motorboat (v0=0),
K = constant force due to the engine
drag force of the water D = -cv
find v(t)=?

Homework Equations


integration
f=ma, a=dv/dt

The Attempt at a Solution


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D+K = MA
K-cv = MA
(A=dv/dt)
K-cv=Mdv/dt
Mdv=dt(K-cv)
?
i want to do integration on both side of the
equation but I can't isolate V

thanks
 
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betty0202 said:
Mdv=dt(K-cv)
You need only gather the v and t terms on opposite sides of the equation. Constants can be on either side. Divide both sides by (K - cv).
 
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gneill said:
You need only gather the v and t terms on opposite sides of the equation. Constants can be on either side. Divide both sides by (K - cv).

I hope I did the math right ## \int_{}^{} (\frac{m}{k-cv})dv=\int_{}^{}dt ##
## -m\ln(cv-k)=t ##
## \ln(cv-k)=-\frac{t}{m} ##
## v=\frac{e^{-\frac{t}{m}}+k}{c} ##
??
 
You'll want to write the integrals as definite integrals (with specified limits of integration), otherwise you need to introduce and deal with the constants of integration. The starting limits for each integral are simple: they're both zero.
 
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gneill said:
You'll want to write the integrals as definite integrals (with specified limits of integration), otherwise you need to introduce and deal with the constants of integration. The starting limits for each integral are simple: they're both zero.
thank you
 

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