Solving Circuit Problems: Tips and Techniques for Finding Voltage and Current

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The discussion revolves around solving circuit problems, specifically focusing on finding voltage across resistors and current through them. Participants explore techniques such as Kirchhoff's Voltage Law (KVL) and the use of loops in circuit analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for help in solving a circuit, specifically how to find voltage and current, and inquires about breaking the circuit into loops.
  • Another participant suggests that the voltage across two resistors will be the same and prompts the original poster to find the voltage across that pair.
  • A different participant confirms that the circuit can be broken into three loops but notes that only two independent equations can be derived from them.
  • One participant proposes specific equations for KVL in the loops and questions how to determine the signs for voltage drops.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of designating separate currents for different branches and provides a formula incorporating these currents and resistors.
  • A participant advises marking the currents with arrows to indicate direction and mentions that the direction can be adjusted if necessary, as it will affect the sign of the current in calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the methods of applying KVL and the importance of marking currents, but there is no consensus on the specific equations or the approach to determining voltage and current in the circuit.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about how to assign positive and negative signs in their equations, indicating a potential area of confusion that remains unresolved.

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Help please, with circuits

Can someone help me solve his circuit. I need to find the Voltage on all the resistors, and current through them. HOw would i start? Can i break this into two loops? How would i implement KVL to this ?


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Be advised that this thread will probably quickly be moved to the homework section of the boards. You should post questions of this nature there, from now on.

You can start by recalling that the voltage across the two rightmost resistors will be the same. Can you find the voltage across this pair (combination) of resistors?
 
th3plan said:
Can someone help me solve his circuit. I need to find the Voltage on all the resistors, and current through them. HOw would i start? Can i break this into two loops? How would i implement KVL to this ?

Hi th3plan! :smile:

You can always break any diagram into as many loops as you like.

In this case, there are 3 loops (the left one, the right one, and the whole outside one).

But they'll only give you 2 independent equations … in other words, if you apply KVL to all three loops, you'll find that the third equation is just a combination of the first two (in any order :wink:).

So it doesn't really matter which 2 loops you choose.

Just mark the (unknown) currents on the diagram where appropriate, and chug happily away! :smile:
 


So consider the first loop , its what 10v-V1-V2=0 and 2nd loop is v2-v3=0 ? Is this correct, how do i consider what's positive and negative? Do i pick a node and go from there as current enters and current exits ?
 


The potential drop across a resistor is IR. Designate separate current I1 and I2 for the two branches in your circuit. You can write it like this:
If the current flows into + terminal of element, potential is IR. If it flows into - terminal of the voltage source, read it as -10V
So you have
-Vsource + I1R1 + (I1 + I2)R2 = 0

where R1 and R2 are the resistors in the loop under consideration.
 
mark the currents with arrows

th3plan said:
… how do i consider what's positive and negative?

Hi th3plan! :smile:

To add to what Defennder says … for Kirchhoff's rules you must mark an arrow on each part of the circuit, to indicate the direction of the current.

(And of course, you must mark the current itself, I1 I2 and I3 … which I suspect you haven't done :frown:)

You don't need to get the arrow the right way round … if it's the wrong way round, then your I just comes out negative.

But you must make sure that your arrow directions and Is all obey KVL I at each node. :wink:
 

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