Solving Combustion Q: Find Steam Raised Per Hour

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The discussion revolves around a combustion problem involving a fuel gas mixture of butane, propane, and butene, and the calculation of steam generation from flue gases produced during combustion. Participants are exploring the stoichiometry of the combustion reactions, the heat required for steam production, and the necessary calculations to determine the amount of steam raised per hour.

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  • One participant outlines a method to calculate the total heat required to heat water in three steps, including sensible and latent heat, but expresses uncertainty about flow rates and specific heat capacities.
  • Another participant asks for the balanced chemical reaction equations and the stoichiometric requirements for oxygen for each fuel gas species, as well as the flow rates of each species in the fuel gas.
  • A subsequent reply provides the unbalanced chemical equations for the combustion of each fuel gas and calculates the moles of oxygen required for combustion, including the excess air factor.
  • Another participant requests verification of the information provided in the previous post.
  • A later reply reiterates the need for properly balanced chemical reaction equations, indicating a potential disagreement or confusion regarding the stoichiometry presented earlier.

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Participants are engaged in a debate regarding the proper balancing of chemical equations and the stoichiometric calculations related to the combustion process. There is no consensus on the correct balanced equations, and uncertainty remains about the calculations presented.

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Limitations include potential inaccuracies in the chemical equations provided, the need for clarification on flow rates and specific heat capacities, and the unresolved nature of the stoichiometric calculations.

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Hi there,

I was wondering if you could kindly help me in one of the question. its a tiny question..

the question is
1. A fuel gas consists of 75% butane (C4H10), 10% propane (C3H8) and 15% butene (C4H8) by volume. It is to be fed to the combustion chamber in 10% excess air at 25ºC, where it is completely burnt to carbon dioxide and water. The flue gases produced are to be used to generate 5 bar steam from water at 90ºC

If 5% of the heat available for steam production is lost to the atmosphere, determine the amount of steam raised per hour when the total flow of flue gsaes is 1400 kmol /h

Data: Net calorific value (MJ m–3) at 25ºC of: Butane (C4H10) = 111.7 MJ m–3 Butene (C4H8) = 105.2 MJ m–3 Propane (C3H8) = 85.8 MJ m–3 Air is 21% oxygen, 79% nitrogen by volume and 23.3% oxygen and 76.7% nitrogen by mass. Atomic mass of C = 12, O = 16, N=14 and H = 1.

now the solution I'm meant to do is :
find the total heat required to heat water and we do it in three steps
1. find the sensible heat 90-100C --- the equation is m x cp x (temp difference) I am not sure what tthe flow rate is and is the water m,cp ?
2. Latent heat - 100-152C
3.Sensible heat- not sure the temp difference
then we add all them to find the total and then 5% is lost so total heat/ 0.95 to find the heat supplied and at the end we are meant to divide the mass available by heat required.

does my method seems alright?
i will be highly glad if you could kindly help me in this.
 
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What are the three chemical reaction equations? How many moles of oxygen are required stoichiometrically per mole of each fuel gas species? How many moles/hr of each species are flowing in the fuel gas? How many moles/hr of oxygen are required stoichiometrically. How many moles/hr of oxygen are required if there is a 10 % excess. How many moles/hr of nitrogen accompany this amount of oxygen?
 
three equations are :
c4H10 + o2 --> CO2 + h20
c3H8 + o2 ---> CO2 + h20
c4h8 + 6o2 --> CO2 + h20

0.628moles will be present in the flue gas.

the flue gas in total contains 40.9moles

according to the reaction stoichiometry for component :
0.75moles c4h10 will require = 4.88moles of o2, 3.75 h20, 3.0 co2
0.10moles c3h8 will require = 0.5 o2, 0.4 h20, 0.3 co2
0.15 moles c4h8 will require = 0.90o2, 0.6 h20, 0.6 co2
in total 6.28moles,there's 10% excess so actual amount = 6.91moles

nitrogen - 25.974mol
 
please check the above info
 
darin khan said:
three equations are :
c4H10 + o2 --> CO2 + h20
c3H8 + o2 ---> CO2 + h20
c4h8 + 6o2 --> CO2 + h20
Let's start over. What are the three PROPERLY BALANCED chemical reaction equations?
 

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