Solving Complex Inequalities with Absolute Value Signs

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The problem involves two inequalities concerning a variable \( k \), initially presented as a complex number. The inequalities are \( |k+\sqrt{k^2-1}|<1 \) and \( |k-\sqrt{k^2-1}| <1 \). The original poster expresses confusion regarding the absolute value signs and seeks assistance in solving the inequalities.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of rewriting the absolute value inequalities in terms of real numbers and question the uniqueness of the square root of complex numbers. There is also a clarification regarding the nature of \( k \) being real rather than complex, which shifts the focus of the discussion.

Discussion Status

The discussion is evolving, with participants providing observations and insights that may help clarify the problem. The original poster expresses a newfound understanding after realizing the nature of \( k \), indicating a potential shift towards resolving the issue.

Contextual Notes

There is a notable shift in the understanding of \( k \) from complex to real, which affects the interpretation of the inequalities. This change in context may influence the approach to solving the problem.

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Homework Statement


You have the two inequalities, where k is a complex number;
|k+\sqrt{k^2-1}|&lt;1
and
|k-\sqrt{k^2-1}| &lt;1

Show that if ##|k|>1##, then the second inequality is fulfilled, while the first one is impossible for any value of k.

The Attempt at a Solution



Those absolute-value signs freak me out.. Can somebody show me what to do? I'm sure this should be really easy but my brain is totally burnt out right now
 
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Two observations:

|x| < 1 can also be written as -1 < x < 1.

|k| > 1 implies k² > 1 (because k² = (-k)²).

The former should help you to rewrite the problem without absolute value signs.

[EDIT] I just noticed you mentioned k is complex, which means they are not absolute value signs but modulus signs (i.e. if ##k = r e^{i \phi}## then ##|k| = r##. That probably makes my hints above useless, let me think about it some more.
 
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I'm not sure I believe this. The square root of a complex number in not uniquely defined. Unlike real numbers, there is no way to choose "the positive one".

So, if you take k = -2i, you get k^2-1 = -5. Then:

k \pm \sqrt{k^2 - 1} = -2i \pm \sqrt{5}i

Which has modulus > or < 1 depending on which root you take.
 
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oh crap I'm so sorry, I mixed it up. k is non-complex! I needed help with that inequality as it came up when I was solving a real integral by method of residues, but after I transformed the integral into a complex one, I forgot that k was real (it was a constant in an ordinary integral: ##\int_0^\pi \frac{2 d \theta}{k-\cos( \theta)}##).

Sorry! I didn't mean wasting anybody's time. I think I should be able to solve it now after this insight... Thanks for the help
 
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Nikitin said:
Sorry! I didn't mean wasting anybody's time. I think I should be able to solve it now after this insight... Thanks for the help

You didn't. If we had a life we wouldn't be on this forum :-)

(At least speaking for myself, don't mean to offend anyone).
 

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