Solving Curl(A x B): Step-By-Step Guide

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The problem involves proving the identity curl(A x B) = AdivB - BdivA + (B·∇)A - (A·∇)B, where A and B are vector fields. The original poster expresses confusion in manipulating the expressions and seeks guidance on how to approach the proof.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss working through both sides of the equation, suggesting the use of specific vector representations to simplify the problem. Some mention the Levi-Civita symbol as a potential tool for simplifying the proof. There is also a focus on the manipulation of terms and components in the expression.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing various suggestions and approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the manipulation of vector components, but there is no clear consensus or resolution yet.

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There is a mention of confusion regarding the use of subscripts in vector notation and the potential complexity of the proof. The original poster also expresses uncertainty about the equivalence of different forms of the equation.

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I need to prove curl(A x B) = AdivB - BdivA + (B·∇)A - (A·∇)B
But I keep on getting confused in the numbers. I tried taking the cross product A x B and crossing that into the gradient, but I just get lost. I also tried going from the right side of the equation and get lost in there as well.

Can someone show me a clear way of doing this proof or put me in the right direction?

Thank you
 
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There isn't a shortcut to these type of formulas. Just work both sides out. It might help slightly to avoid subscripts in the vectors so try letting

A = < u, v, w >
B = < r, s, t >

all functions of x, y, z, and work both sides. Hopefully you will see how to group things to show they are equal, assuming they are.
 
Are you familiar with the Levi-Civita symbol εijk? Using it can make these sorts of proofs a lot easier.
 
No, I’m not familiar with that.

Just to be clear, curl(A x B) = AdivB - BdivA + (B·∇)A - (A·∇)B = 2AdivB - 2BdivA, correct?
 
SingBlueSilva said:
No, I’m not familiar with that.
Bummer.
Just to be clear, curl(A x B) = AdivB - BdivA + (B·∇)A - (A·∇)B = 2AdivB - 2BdivA, correct?
Nope.
 
scratch that last post, it was dumb.

Well I started by taking the left side of the equation and get to this:

[d/dy(us-rv)+d/dz(ut-rw)]i-[d/dx(us-vr)-d/dz(vt-ws)]j+[d/dx(ut-wr)-d/dy(vt-ws)]k

if I add d/dx(ur-ru) to the i component, d/dy(uv-vu) to the j component and d/dz(uw-wu) to the k component, I can come up with the first two terms. But I can’t figure out the rest.
 
In the i term, for example, you should have terms like

r du/dx + s du/dy + t du/dz = (r d/dx + s d/dy + t d/dz) u

That's the x-component of (B⋅∇) A.
 

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