Solving d for Mass Attached to Vertical Spring

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The problem involves a mass attached to a vertical spring, which stretches the spring a distance d. The mass undergoes oscillations, and the task is to determine the distance d based on the number of oscillations and the time taken. The subject area includes concepts from mechanics and oscillatory motion.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the forces acting on the mass and the spring, questioning the initial setup and equations used. There are attempts to equate forces and derive relationships involving mass, spring constant, and oscillation period. Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of their equations and calculations.

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There are ongoing corrections and clarifications regarding the equations used, particularly concerning the relationship between the spring force and gravitational force. Some participants have acknowledged mistakes and are attempting to rectify them, while others are questioning the interpretation of period versus frequency.

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Participants are navigating through the constraints of the problem, including the definitions of period and frequency, and the implications of their equations. There is a focus on ensuring the correct application of physical principles without arriving at a definitive solution.

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Homework Statement


When a mass is attached to a vertical spring, the spring is stretched a distance d. The mass is then pulled down from this position and released. It undergoes 57 oscillations in 39.0 s. What was the distance d?


Homework Equations


F=-Kx
F=mg
T=2pi*sqrt(K/m)


The Attempt at a Solution


I started by putting the first two equations equal.
-K x= m g
Solving for x you get
[1] (m g) /-K= x
Then I solved for m/K in the third equation.
[2] (2 π / T )^2=m / K
Then I solved for osc/s which came to be 1.46 osc/s
Substituting {2} for {1} I came up with
g*(- 2 π/ T)^2= x BUt i feel like this equation is wrong. Any help?
 
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Do not set the first two equations equal to each other, they are not equal. The two forces acting on the mass, the weight and spring force, add to give the total force which will be zero when x=d.
 
Psyguy22 said:
T=2pi*sqrt(K/m)
This is incorrect. You have K and m reversed.

I started by putting the first two equations equal.
-K x= m g
Solving for x you get
[1] (m g) /-K= x
Here the problem is that minus sign. Set the magnitudes of the forces equal.

Fix those problems and you'll be OK.
 
Ok i fixed the two mistakes, but I'm still coming up with the wrong answer. I think I have something wrong with the peiod but am unsure how to fix it
 
Psyguy22 said:
Ok i fixed the two mistakes, but I'm still coming up with the wrong answer. I think I have something wrong with the peiod but am unsure how to fix it
The period is the time it takes for one oscillation. Above you solved for the osc/sec, which is the frequency, not the period.
 

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