Solving Determinant Question for 3A2B-1

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of determinants for two matrices, A and B, with a specific equation involving their determinants provided. The original poster attempts to find the determinant of the expression 3A^2B^-1 based on the relationship 5detA + detB = 10.

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  • The original poster describes their steps in manipulating the matrices and calculating determinants, including the effects of row and column operations on the determinant. They question the legality of their steps and seek clarification on how to handle negative signs in matrix B.

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Participants have engaged in exploring the transformations of the matrices and the implications for the determinants. Some guidance has been offered regarding the handling of negative signs and the relationship between detA and detB. There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations, with one participant confirming the correctness of the approach up to a certain point.

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The original poster is working under the constraints of a homework problem that requires careful manipulation of determinants and consideration of matrix properties. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the implications of specific matrix operations on the determinant values.

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i am given 2 matrices

A=
a1 b1 c1
a2 b2 c1
a3 b3 c3

B=
-c2 3c1 -c3
b2 -3b1 b3
-5a2 15a1 -5a3


and also given is: 5detA+detB=10

what i need to fin is det(3A2B-1)

what i did to help me was

det(3)=27
det(A2)=detA*detA
det(B-1)=1/detB

i see that if i perform 2 "swaps" on B, once between R1 and R3 , and then between C1 and C2, these actions won't change detB.
now i can divide my new R1 by 5, and my new c1 by 3 and transpose B to get a new B* , detB=(5*3)detB*

now my new matrix B* is ALMOST identical to A, except for the (-) signs before some of its numbers, which are drivin me mad,
how can i get rid of them, if i can get rid of them i can find detA.

any ideas? have all my steps beeen legal??
 
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a1 -a2 -a3
-b1 b2 b3
c1 -c2 -c3

Find "patterns" in the negative signs so you can multiply certain rows or columns by -1 to get rid of them.
 
thanks, got it.. so...
what i had was

B*=
a1 -b1 c1
-a2 b2 -c2
-a3 b3 -c3

so i'll multiply det(B*)*(-1)*(-1)*(-1)=detA
so detB* =-detA

detB=(5*3)detB*
detB=-15detA


5detA+detB=10
5detA-15detA=10
detA=-1

now to solve the question
det(3A^2B^-1)=27*(-1)*(-1)*(1/-15)
=-27/15

does this all look right??
 
Dell said:
thanks, got it.. so...
what i had was

B*=
a1 -b1 c1
-a2 b2 -c2
-a3 b3 -c3

so i'll multiply det(B*)*(-1)*(-1)*(-1)=detA
so detB* =-detA

detB=(5*3)detB*
detB=-15detA5detA+detB=10
5detA-15detA=10
detA=-1

now to solve the question
det(3A^2B^-1)=27*(-1)*(-1)*(1/-15)
=-27/15

does this all look right??
Right up until to the very end! Since det(A)=-1 and det(B) = -15det(A), we have det(B) = +15.

Apart from that - well done, Dell!
 

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