Solving Electrical Physics Problem: Find Electric Force on Point Charge

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The problem involves finding the electric force on a positive point charge located on the axis of a cylindrical object formed from a rectangular insulating sheet with a negative charge distributed over its surface. The context is within the subject area of electrostatics in physics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the need to set up an integration to find the electric force, with suggestions to identify charge elements and consider the geometry of the problem. Questions about the appropriate coordinate system and symmetry are also raised.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the integration and the setup of the problem. There is an acknowledgment of varying levels of familiarity with the topic, and participants are encouraged to share their progress and specific points of confusion.

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Participants note the importance of drawing a sketch to visualize the problem and the need to express the force as an integral over a single variable. There is also mention of the challenge posed by the problem due to its complexity and the requirement for a clear understanding of electric fields.

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My brother asked me this question and i completely have no idea how to do cause it is a very long time. Can anyone help, or give me an idea on how to do


A rectangular insulating sheet carrying a negative charge Q evenly distributed over its surface is formed into a cylinder, producing a thin walled hollow object of length L and radius R.

• We wish to find the electric force on a positive point charge q, located on the axis of the cylinder at one end.


a. Draw a sketch showing the tube, the victim charge q, and an appropriate coordinate system for describing the problem. In your sketch clearly show E at the location of q.

b. Choose and then clearly indicate the charge element dq you will use for the integration in your sketch.


c. Set up the integration. That is express F as a constant times an integral over a single variable.

Thank you
 
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hi vtran0703! welcome to pf! :wink:

it's a fairly straightforward integration problem …

find the charge on a small area dzdθ of the cylinder, find the force at E from that charge, and then integrate over the whole cylinder

show us how far you get, and where you're stuck, and then we'll know how to help! :smile:
 
It's been quite a while since I saw these problem. To be honest, I wasn't good with them back then either, but I'll try, any help would be great
 
Remember that
[tex]\mathbf{E} = \int \frac{\lambda(\mathbf{r'}) d\mathbf{l}}{|\mathbf{r}-\mathbf{r'}|^2}\hat{(\mathbf{r}-\mathbf{r'})}[/tex]
or alternatively
[tex]\mathbf{E} = \int \frac{\lambda(\mathbf{r'}) \mathbf{r}-\mathbf{r'}}{|\mathbf{r}-\mathbf{r'}|^3 }d\mathbf{l}[/tex]
where r is the vector from the origin to a point in space and r' is a vector from the origin to the charge. So you make all the these infinitesimally different vectors as you sweep along the charge edge, and sum them up. A good idea for an origin is one where you can exploit symmetry in the problem, what's the most symmetric origin? What is the electric field from there?
 
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