Solving for a variable in an equation with fractional powers

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The discussion revolves around solving for a variable in an equation involving fractional powers, specifically in the context of thermodynamics and statistical mechanics. Participants are attempting to manipulate an equation that includes terms with fractional exponents and constants related to temperature and energy.

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Homework Statement
$$\epsilon^\frac32=\mu^\frac32+\frac{\left(\pi k_B T\right)^2}{8}\frac1{\mu^\frac12}$$
I am given that ##\epsilon\approx\mu## and ##(1+x)^\alpha\approx1+\alpha x## when ##x\to0##.
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##(1+x)^\alpha\approx1+\alpha x## when ##x\to0##
I have tried manipulating this to
$$1-\frac{8}{(\pi k_B T)^2}\mu^\frac12(\epsilon^\frac32-\mu^\frac32)=0\Leftrightarrow\left[1+\mu^\frac12(\epsilon^\frac32-\mu^\frac32)\right]^{-\frac{8}{(\pi k_B T)^2}}=0$$
but this doesn't seem to lead anywhere.
any hints please?

the solution is one of these ##T_f=\epsilon/k_B##:
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If you set ##\mu^{\frac{1}{2}}=\nu## for convenience, and multiply the equation with ##\nu## then you have a polynomial equation which may be solvable. The exponent in your formula is wrong.
 
fresh_42 said:
If you set ##\mu^{\frac{1}{2}}=\nu## for convenience, and multiply the equation with ##\nu## then you have a polynomial equation which may be solvable. The exponent in your formula is wrong.
I don't think so. I tried that with wolfram, but the result was very bad.
how so?
 
archaic said:
I don't think so. I tried that with wolfram, but the result was very bad.
how so?
It's always best to make simplifications at the very last. So multiplying with ##\mu^{\frac{1}{2}}## results in
$$
0=\mu^{\frac{1}{2}}\cdot \left(\mu^{\frac{3}{2}}-\varepsilon^{\frac{3}{2}}\right) +\dfrac{\left(\pi k_B T\right)^2}{8}=\mu^{\frac{1}{2}}\cdot\left(\mu+\mu^{\frac{1}{2}}\varepsilon^{\frac{1}{2}}+\varepsilon \right)\cdot\left(\mu^{\frac{1}{2}}-\varepsilon^{\frac{1}{2}}\right)+\dfrac{\left(\pi k_B T\right)^2}{8}
$$
What if you now start to apply the hints? But I don't see how we can deal with ##\mu^{\frac{1}{2}}-\varepsilon^{\frac{1}{2}}##.
 
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Here's a quick-ish and dirty way, just making use of ##\epsilon \approx \mu##. Since ##\epsilon^\frac32 = \mu^\frac32+\frac{\left(\pi k_B T\right)^2}{8\mu^\frac12}## you have ##\epsilon^3 = \left( \mu^\frac32+\frac{\left(\pi k_B T\right)^2}{8\mu^\frac12} \right)^2 \approx \mu^3 \left( 1 + \frac{\left(\pi k_B T\right)^2}{4\mu^2} \right)##. This is a cubic ##

\mu^3 + \frac{\left(\pi k_B T\right)^2}{4} \mu - \epsilon^3 \approx 0

##. But ##\mu^3 - \epsilon^3 = (\mu - \epsilon)(\mu^2 + \mu \epsilon + \epsilon^2) \approx 3\mu^2 (\mu - \epsilon)## and so ##\mu^2 - \epsilon \mu + \frac{\left(\pi k_B T\right)^2}{12} \approx 0## and \begin{align*}

\mu_{+} \approx \frac{\epsilon + \sqrt{\epsilon^2 - \frac{\left(\pi k_B T\right)^2}{3}} }{2} \approx \epsilon\left( 1 -\frac{\left(\pi k_B T\right)^2}{12 \epsilon^2} \right) = \epsilon\left( 1 - \frac{\pi^2}{12} \left( \frac{T}{T_f} \right)^2 \right)

\end{align*}
 
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thank you! never mind my other message.
 
I rewrote the equation as ##x^3=y^3+c/y## and substituted ##y=x(1-\alpha)##. Discarding ##\alpha^2## etc. this gives ##y=x(1-\frac c{3x^4-c})##. This does not seem to match any of the choices.
 
haruspex said:
I rewrote the equation as ##x^3=y^3+c/y## and substituted ##y=x(1-\alpha)##. Discarding ##\alpha^2## etc. this gives ##y=x(1-\frac c{3x^4-c})##. This does not seem to match any of the choices.
a more formal way to find the result is to write$$\epsilon^\frac32\mu^\frac12-\mu^2-\frac{\left(\pi k_B T\right)^2}{8}=0$$$$f(x)=\epsilon^\frac32x^\frac12-x^2-\frac{\left(\pi k_B T\right)^2}{8}$$and compute the taylor expansion about ##x=\epsilon##. since ##\epsilon\approx\mu##, we ignore higher order terms.$$-\frac{\left(\pi k_B T\right)^2}{8}-\frac{3\epsilon}{2}\left(\mu-\epsilon\right)=0$$
 

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