Solving for g: A Homework Equation Mystery?

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The problem involves determining the acceleration due to gravity (g) at the location of a simple pendulum, given its length and period. The subject area is related to mechanics, specifically the dynamics of pendulums.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the period of the pendulum and the value of g, with some expressing confusion about the relevant equations. There are suggestions to draw free body diagrams and consider small angle approximations to simplify the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing resources and suggesting methods for approaching the problem. Some express a desire to understand the underlying concepts rather than just finding an equation. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the best way to proceed.

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Some participants mention the importance of using external resources for equations and derivations, indicating a reliance on available educational materials. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity in understanding the problem setup and assumptions.

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Homework Statement


If the period of a 70.8-cm-long simple pendulum is 1.91 s, what is the value of g at the location of the pendulum?


Homework Equations


I don't know of any that relate the period, radius and the value of g


The Attempt at a Solution



The thing is, I'm completely clueless. I'm guessing it has something to do with force, because how else would g be related to the equation? And... probably angular velocity. But I am so clueless.
 
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Klymene15 said:

Homework Equations


I don't know of any that relate the period, radius and the value of g
Google is your friend.

Seriously, you should be able to easily find an expression for the period of a simple pendulum.
 
@tadchem: Um... The link only said "It works!" What works, I don't know...

@Doc Al: I'm looking to learn how to do it, not simply find an equation.
 
Klymene15 said:
@tadchem: Um... The link only said "It works!" What works, I don't know...

@Doc Al: I'm looking to learn how to do it, not simply find an equation.
Draw a free body diagram with the pendulum at some angle to the vertical. Show the forces acting on the bob. Assign identifiers (algebraic variables) to the angle, the mass, etc. Obtain an equation for the acceleration.
At this point, you should hit a snag, a mix of trig and linear functions of the angle. The trick is to assume the pendulum only swings through quite small angles. That allows you to approximate sin(θ) as θ. You should now have a classic simple harmonic motion differential equation.
 
Klymene15 said:
@Doc Al: I'm looking to learn how to do it, not simply find an equation.
Did you even attempt to Google it? Or use the excellent hyperphysics reference? (Or your text.) Full derivations (similar to what haruspex outlined) are readily available.

Simple Pendulum
 
My apologies for the incomplete link.
The home page is http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hframe.html
It has a graphic tree navigation system that can quickly get you down to the nuts and bolts of whatever physics problem you are interested in. There is also an index on the right side of the page.
 

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