Solving for Velocity Vector Angle of 45.0

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining when a velocity vector makes an angle of 45 degrees with the x- and y-axes, given certain constants. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the relevant equations and the specific requirements of the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of the scalar product to find angles between vectors and explore the relationship between the components of the velocity vector and the angle it makes with the axes. There is also mention of a potential multiplicative factor affecting the calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using vector components and the scalar product, while others are reflecting on their understanding of the problem. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the components and the angle, with no clear consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes that the prompt specifically asks for a time variable (t), which adds a layer of complexity to the problem. There is also mention of confusion regarding the multiplicative factors involved in the solution.

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Homework Statement



If http://net.dinhweb.de/vector.gif ,[/URL] where b and c are positive constants, when does the velocity vector make an angle of 45.0 with the x- and y-axes?

Homework Equations



I'm not sure.. I've got a million equations but none of them seem to fit the problem the way I need. I know this isn't relevant to the question, but the prompt asks for "t=?"

The Attempt at a Solution



I've got this thing worked down to b divided by c (b/c), but apparently my "answer is off by a multiplicative factor." I've already taken a few shots at guessing the coefficient I need, but no luck there, so I decided to give this a try.

I didn't think any kind of "multiplicative factor" was necessary because equal "i hat" and "j hat" values would give a 45 degree angle. Apparently not and here I am stuck on this problem

Any kind of help would be greatly appreciated =]
 
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Do you know how to use the scalar product to determine the angle between two vectors? i.e.\bold{x}\cdot \bold{y}=xy\cos\theta where \theta is the angle between the two vectors.
 
Somewhat.. Researching the answer earlier through my textbook actually led me to the exact page with the scalar product definition, but I couldn't figure out how it tied into the problem.

It's actually a couple chapters back from the original problem, but now I'm in the process of reading it over again.
 
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Well, try looking at r.i and r.j, since you know the angle that r must make with the x and y axes.
 
Hm.. I think I understand a little better now..

So I have the component direction and magnitude, but finding the dot product of r and i or r and j gives me the magnitude of r which is the component of either i or j? And that magnitude is the factor I'm missing?
 
I have looked at this, and plugged b/c into excel and it works for 5 different b and c constants. Thus for me, b/c is correct.
 
Well I feel stupid..

Someone hinted to "find the derivative of the positive vector".. Which meant next to nothing to me, but I decided to give it a try anyway and use the coefficients I would've gotten if I took the derivative of the whole equation. It turns out the "mutiplicative factors" I was missing was a 2 and 3, so the answer was..

t = (2b)/(3c)

I don't know if it's just me, but that answer doesn't make any sense and now I'm more confused than ever.
 

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