Solving Integrals with Substitutions: e^x Hint & Attempt at Solution

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves integrating the expression -9e^x - 28 / e^2x + 9e^x + 14, with a suggested substitution of u = e^x. Participants are exploring the implications of this substitution for solving the integral.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the substitution method and the need to express dx in terms of du. There is consideration of rewriting the integral for clarity and the potential use of partial fractions for integration.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on rewriting the integral and factoring the denominator. There is an ongoing exploration of the substitution and its implications for the integration process, with no explicit consensus on the final approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the difficulty in interpreting the original integral due to formatting issues, which may affect the clarity of the problem setup. There is also mention of the complexity involved in solving for coefficients in partial fractions.

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Homework Statement


Integrate

-9e^x - 28 / e^2x + 9e^x + 14

It gives a hint which is substitute u = e^x.


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The Attempt at a Solution


I want to integrate by partial fractions if possible... however before I can do that, I need to make the substitution, and I can't figure out how.

If I take u = e^x, then du=e^x dx .

But I have no e^x dx by itself in my equation to replace?
 
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note you can rewrite it as
[tex] e^{-x}du = dx[/tex]

so then
[tex] \frac{du}{u}= dx[/tex]
 
Here's what I think your integral is, with dx:
[tex]\int \frac{-9e^x - 28}{e^{2x} + 9e^x +14}dx[/tex]

Since you didn't use any parentheses, it's difficult to tell what the original problem really is, so I wrote the integral as what I thought you meant.

If du = e^x dx, then dx = du/(e^x) = du/u.

Make the substitution, and we'll take it from there.
 
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Hmm, okay.

So that gives

(-9u-28)/((u^2)+9u+14), that whole thing multiplied by du / u.

Is that right?
 
sounds alright to me, try and factor the denominator as well
 
The denominator factors out into
(u + 2)(u + 7)(u).

So from here I can use partial fractions to integrate, I think.

I will have three terms to integrate, which I'll add together at the end:

A / (u + 2)
B / (u + 7)
C / u

I need to solve for A B and C then integrate. Is this the right apporach, or is there an easier way? Solving for the ABC seems complicated.
 
Thanks for your help, both of you. I am not going to continue with the rest of the problem because I know how to solve it, and I still have some other practice questions to do.
 

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