Solving LC circuit with energy conservation

In summary, the solution is based on energy conservation and takes into account the inductor's energy. The initial charge and energy stored in the capacitor before breakdown are not affected by the inductor. The energy of the damaged capacitor at breakdown is half of the total energy, leaving the remaining energy in the intact capacitor and inductor. This can be understood through the mechanical analog of a mass-spring system with two parallel springs, where the new amplitude of oscillation is determined by the remaining operational spring.
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Homework Statement
This is one of krotov's problems:
A bank of two series-connected capacitors
of capacitance C each is charged to a
voltage U and is connected to a coil of inductance L so that an oscillatory circuit
(Fig. 114) is formed at the initial moment.
After a time t, a breakdown occurs in one of
the capacitors, and the resistance between
its plates becomes zero.
Determine the amplitude of charge oscillations on the undamaged capacitor.
Relevant Equations
Equations of energy circuits
The frequency of LC circuits
etc.
krotovs solution is based on energy conservation. My question is that why the solution didn't consider inductors energy?
the question:
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The solution:
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Physically it is because the inductor energy depends only upon the current flowing through it. When the capacitor shorts out the current in the circuit is not immediately changed, except within the unfortunate (and now very warm) capacitor. The subsequent evolution of the current will change because the energy heated the now-shorted capacitor. Does that help?
 
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He must be assuming that the capacitor breakdown is much quicker than the response time of the LC resonator, so the inductor current doesn't change.

However, the phrase "the amplitude of charge oscillations after the breakdown" is confusing. The only oscillations in this circuit must include the inductor, RC circuits don't oscillate. To find the peak capacitor energy ("amplitude of charge oscillations"), you would have to include the inductor energy. Alternatively, you could just describe the charge on the capacitors immediately after the fast breakdown event, which should be zero for one and unchanged for the other (as I interpret his problem).

Yet another example of a poorly worded problem. I guess he's describing the nature of the initial transient and asking for the LC response following that event?
 
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ermia said:
My question is that why the solution didn't consider inductors energy?
Why do you say it didn't? The initial charge on the series combination is ##q_0=C_{eq}U=\frac{1}{2}CU##. The initial energy stored in the capacitor is ##E_0=\frac{1}{2}q_0U=\frac{1}{4}CU^2##. That energy does not change when the inductor is connected. At any time, the energy stored in the capacitor combination before breakdown is ##E_C(t)=\frac{1}{4}CU^2\cos^2\omega_0 t=E_0\cos^2\omega_0 t##. Note that it is sometimes zero and sometimes ##E_0##. When it's zero, all the energy is in the inductor; when it's ##E_0## all the energy is in the capacitors.

Krotov says, that the energy of the damaged capacitor at breakdown is half of ##E_C(\tau)## whatever that value is. The balance, ##E_0-\frac{1}{2}E_C(\tau)## is the energy left in the intact capacitor and the inductor. If the breakdown occurs when ##\omega_0 \tau=\frac{2n+1}{2}\pi## (##n## = integer), all the energy is in the inductor and that is implicit in Krotov's equation for ##W##.
 
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You might find it worthwhile to think about the mechanical analog of this system: a mass-spring system with two parallel, massless springs and no friction:

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The system is initially oscillating with ampltude ##x_0## such that ##x(t) = x_0 \cos \omega t##.

At some arbitrary time ##\tau## one of the springs snaps so that only the other spring is operational.

Find the new amplitude of oscillation.
 

1. What is an LC circuit?

An LC circuit is a type of electrical circuit that consists of an inductor (L) and a capacitor (C) connected in series or parallel. It is also known as a tank circuit or resonant circuit.

2. How does energy conservation apply to solving an LC circuit?

Energy conservation is a fundamental principle in physics that states energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred or converted from one form to another. In an LC circuit, the energy stored in the inductor and capacitor is constantly exchanged back and forth, following the principle of energy conservation.

3. What is the equation for energy conservation in an LC circuit?

The equation for energy conservation in an LC circuit is E = 1/2 * L * I^2 + 1/2 * C * V^2, where E is the total energy, L is the inductance, I is the current, C is the capacitance, and V is the voltage.

4. How do you solve an LC circuit using energy conservation?

To solve an LC circuit using energy conservation, you need to set the total energy at different points in the circuit equal to each other and then solve for the unknown variables. This will give you the values for current and voltage at different points in the circuit.

5. What are some real-world applications of solving LC circuits with energy conservation?

Solving LC circuits with energy conservation is used in various real-world applications, such as radio frequency circuits, oscillators, and filters. It is also used in the design of electronic devices such as radios, televisions, and computers.

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