Solving Logarithmic Spirals for Length from Origin to Point X

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The problem involves a logarithmic spiral, specifically seeking to determine the length of the spiral from the origin to a specified point X on the curve. The distance from the origin to point X is known, along with distances to points A and B, but the angle and specific values for the spiral parameters remain unclear.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to solve for the angle theta and consider using the length formula L = r(theta). There is uncertainty about how to derive the parameters a and b from the known points A and B, with some questioning the correspondence of these points to the spiral equation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the parameters involved in the spiral equation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the points A and B and the spiral's parameters, but clarity is still needed on how to apply this information.

Contextual Notes

There is ambiguity regarding the definitions of the parameters a and b in relation to the points A and B, which may affect the approach to solving the problem. The original poster expresses difficulty in identifying the terms for the spiral equation.

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Homework Statement



This is a logarithmic spiral. How can I find the length of the spiral (curve) from the origin to point X on the curve? The distance between the origin and the point is given (we can call that the radius) and the distance between the origin and point A is given which this is the same between points A and B and C. Point X is on the spiral with an indicated arrow pointing towards it. The location, therefore, the angle between the origin and this point is unknown. However the distance is known. How can I find the total length of the spiral from the origin to point X?

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Homework Equations



1. ##r=ae^{b\theta}##
2. ##L=r\theta##


The Attempt at a Solution



Do I need to solve for theta then use L=r(theta) to find the total length?
I'm having troubles finding the terms for the first equation.
 

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Do I need to solve for theta then use L=r(theta) to find the total length?
That is a good idea.
Im having troubles finding the terms for the first equation.
You know that A and B satisfy the equation for the spiral. This allows to determine a and b.
 
Are you referring to the points A and B? So my values at point A and B correspond to the a and b terms in the equation?
 
eXmag said:
Are you referring to the points A and B?
Sure
So my values at point A and B correspond to the a and b terms in the equation?
No. The names are a bit misleading in that respect.
 

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