Solving Momentum Change Problem: Canoe & Girl's Distance to Shore

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The problem involves a girl walking in a canoe and the resulting distance to the shore, focusing on the principles of momentum and center of mass. The scenario includes a 65 kg girl and a 20 kg canoe, with specific measurements provided for their positions relative to the shore.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of the center of mass concept and question the presence of external forces acting on the system. There is an exploration of how the movement of the girl affects the canoe's position and the overall system's momentum conservation.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering insights into the conservation of momentum and center of mass. Some are questioning the assumptions made about external forces, while others are clarifying the implications of these principles on the problem at hand.

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Participants note that the problem does not provide any external forces acting on the system, which is a critical aspect of the discussion. There is also a mention of the specific formula that the original poster believes is relevant to the solution.

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Can anyone help with this problem?

A 65 kg girl stands in the middle of her 20 kg canoe. The canoe is 3m long, and the end that is closet to land is 2.5m from the shore. The girl now walks toward the shore until she comes to the end of the canoe. What is the distance from the girl to the shore ??

I know its the formula x= m1x1+m2x2/ m1+m2 does anyone know how to solve it from there ?
 
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Isn't it just 2.5m?
 
Huskies213 said:
Can anyone help with this problem?

A 65 kg girl stands in the middle of her 20 kg canoe. The canoe is 3m long, and the end that is closet to land is 2.5m from the shore. The girl now walks toward the shore until she comes to the end of the canoe. What is the distance from the girl to the shore ??

I know its the formula x= m1x1+m2x2/ m1+m2 does anyone know how to solve it from there ?

Is there a net external force acting on the canoe-girl system?

-Dan
 
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No outside forces, what is in the problem is all that is given.
 
this is a center of mass problem. the system will conserve the center of mass and when the girl starts to walk towards the shore the canoe will move away from the shore to conserve the center of mass.
 
qtp said:
this is a center of mass problem. the system will conserve the center of mass and when the girl starts to walk towards the shore the canoe will move away from the shore to conserve the center of mass.

"conserve center of mass" I don't think I've ever heard that phrase before! :-p

Specifically if there is no net external force on the system then the total momentum of the system is conserved. That means that the center of mass is not accelerating. So if the CM was stationary before she started walking where is it when she's done walking?

-Dan
 

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