Calculating the Distance of Canoe Movement

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The problem involves a scenario where a woman stands up and walks in a canoe, prompting a discussion about the movement of the canoe and the calculation of the center of mass. The subject area pertains to mechanics, specifically the principles of center of mass and motion in a system with multiple bodies.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the center of mass for the system of the woman and the canoe, questioning what values to use for the initial position of the canoe's center of mass. There is uncertainty about the appropriate reference point for the canoe's position when the woman is stationary.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the concept of the joint center of mass and seeking clarification on the initial conditions for the calculation. Hints have been provided to guide the original poster in considering the positions before and after the woman's movement.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of consensus on the initial position of the canoe's center of mass, with various interpretations being explored. The problem also involves ignoring resistance to motion, which may influence the discussion on the canoe's movement.

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Homework Statement



A 45.0-kg woman stands up in a 60.0-kg canoe 5.00 m long. She walks from a point 1.00 m from one end to a point 1.00 m from the other end.

If you ignore resistance to motion of the canoe in the water, how far does the canoe move during this process?

Homework Equations



xcm = (mAxA + mBxB) / (mA + mB)

The Attempt at a Solution



I know that I should find the position of the center of mass when the woman is just standing on the canoe, and then plug that into a second center of mass equation to find the new x-value for the canoe, but I can't seem to get it. I am not sure what to plug into the first equation for the x value of the canoe, when the woman isn't walking. Would it be 0, 5, or 2.5 (half of 5, and thus the center of its mass?) or neither of these? Thanks.
 
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am13 said:
… I know that I should find the position of the center of mass when the woman is just standing on the canoe, and then plug that into a second center of mass equation to find the new x-value for the canoe, but I can't seem to get it. I am not sure what to plug into the first equation for the x value of the canoe, when the woman isn't walking. Would it be 0, 5, or 2.5 (half of 5, and thus the center of its mass?) or neither of these? Thanks.

Hi am13! :smile:

Hint: Whereabout in the canoe is the joint centre of mass before and after?
 
Would the joint center of mass be where the person is walking?
 
(just got up :zzz: …)
am13 said:
Would the joint center of mass be where the person is walking?

uhh? :confused:

The joint centre of mass is given by the equation in your first post.
 

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