Solving ODEs using Power Series Method

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The discussion revolves around solving the ordinary differential equation (ODE) y'' + x²y = 0 using the power series method. Participants are exploring the formulation of power series and the implications of coefficients derived from the series expansion.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive expressions for coefficients a2n and a2n+1 but encounters difficulties due to the starting index of the series. Some participants suggest using the Frobenius method and discuss the implications of singular points in relation to the series expansion.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights into the series expansion and coefficient relationships. There is a recognition of the need to analyze the initial conditions and the independence of polynomial terms. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the derived solutions or the approach to express the series in a more compact form.

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Some participants question the necessity of certain terms in the series expansion based on the nature of the singular points, while others note the challenge of expressing the solutions in terms of n due to the factorial relationships observed in the coefficients.

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Hey,

I've been trying to solve this ODE using the power series method,

y'' + x^2y = 0,

I end up with (the first sum can start from 0 or 2, i just left it as starting from n=0)

\[\begin{align}<br /> &amp; \sum\limits_{n=0\,}^{\infty }{n(n-1){{a}_{n}}{{x}^{n-2}}+}\sum\limits_{n=0}^{\infty }{{{a}_{n}}{{x}^{n+2}}}=0 \\ <br /> &amp; \sum\limits_{n=0\,}^{\infty }{n(n-1){{a}_{n}}{{x}^{n}}+}\sum\limits_{n=0}^{\infty }{{{a}_{n}}{{x}^{n+4}}}=0 \\ <br /> &amp; \sum\limits_{n=0\,}^{\infty }{n(n-1){{a}_{n}}{{x}^{n}}+}\sum\limits_{n=4}^{\infty }{{{a}_{n-4}}{{x}^{n}}}=0 \\ <br /> &amp; \sum\limits_{n=0\,}^{\infty }{n(n-1){{a}_{n}}{{x}^{n}}+}\sum\limits_{n=0}^{\infty }{{{a}_{n-4}}{{x}^{n}}}-{{a}_{-4}}{{x}^{0}}-{{a}_{-3}}x-{{a}_{-2}}{{x}^{2}}-{{a}_{-1}}{{x}^{3}}=0 \\ <br /> &amp; By\,\,Thrm\,\,of\,\,vanishing\,\,coefficients: \\ <br /> &amp; {{a}_{-4}}{{x}^{0}}={{a}_{-3}}x={{a}_{-2}}{{x}^{2}}={{a}_{-1}}{{x}^{3}}=0 \\ <br /> &amp; -n(n-1){{a}_{n}}={{a}_{n-4}}\,\,\,\,\,n=4,5,6,... \\ <br /> \end{align}\]<br />

but I'm having trouble getting an expression for a2n and a2n+1 since n starts at 4 there's no a2 to write a6 in terms of a0 like I am used to doing,

\begin{align}<br /> &amp; n(n-1){{a}_{n}}={{a}_{n-4}} \\ <br /> &amp; {{a}_{4}}=\frac{{{a}_{0}}}{4\cdot 3},{{a}_{3}}=\frac{{{a}_{6}}}{6\cdot 5},... \\ <br /> \end{align}<br />

Is there something I'm missing?

Thanks in advance
 
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y'' + x^2y = 0
So you use Frobenius method expanding around x0=0, because there are no singularities in the finite interval:
The guess is: \sum\limits_{n=0}^{\infty}a_nx^{n+j},\hspace{10pt}a_0\neq 0
So insert like you did: \sum\limits_{n=0}^{\infty}a_n(n+j)(n+j-1)x^{n+j-2}+a_nx^{n+j+2}
You would like to sum from the same indicies, try taking out the first 4 terms in the 1 term:
a_0j(j-1)x^{j-2}+a_1(1+j)jx^{j-1}+a_2(2+j)(1+j)x^{j}+a_3(3+j)(2+j)x^{j+1}+\sum_{n=4}^{\infty}a_n(n+j)(n+j-1)x^{n+j-2}+\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}a_jx^{n+j+2}
So switch the index in the first sequence:
a_0j(j-1)x^{j-2}+a_1(1+j)jx^{j-1}+a_2(2+j)(1+j)x^{j}+a_3(3+j)(2+j)x^{j+1}+\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}a_{n+4}(n+4+j)(n+j+3)x^{n+j+2}+\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}a_jx^{n+j+2}
Now you can use linear independence of polynomials like you did before and analyse the inicidial equation.
 
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No, you don't need the "n+ j" precisely because x= 0 is NOT a singular point.
 
Yeah, guess i did the robot here. Sorry. But isn't it right that fuchs theorem would lead to the conclusion that j=0 from the inicidial equation?
 
Thanks for your replies guys,

I worked on it a little more and for my solutions I get:

\begin{align}<br /> &amp; {{y}_{1}}(x)={{a}_{o}}-\frac{{{a}_{o}}}{3\cdot 4}{{x}^{4}}+\frac{{{a}_{o}}}{3\cdot 4\cdot 7\cdot 8}{{x}^{8}}-\frac{{{a}_{o}}}{3\cdot 4\cdot 7\cdot 8\cdot 11\cdot 12}{{x}^{12}}+... \\ <br /> &amp; {{y}_{2}}(x)={{a}_{1}}x-\frac{{{a}_{1}}}{4\cdot 5}{{x}^{5}}+\frac{{{a}_{1}}}{4\cdot 5\cdot 8\cdot 9}{{x}^{9}}-\frac{{{a}_{1}}}{4\cdot 5\cdot 8\cdot 9\cdot 12\cdot 13}{{x}^{13}}+... \\ <br /> \end{align}

Do they look correct?
I've been trying to find a way to write each of them as sums rather then individual terms but I'm finding it a little hard to write an a2n and an a2n+1 which satisfies the two above solutions.

For example in y2 the factorials go like

3!/5!, 3!7!/5!9!, 3!7!11!/5!9!13!

Is there a way that can be written in terms of n?
 
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