Solving Operators and Ordering in 3D Electron Energies

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The discussion focuses on calculating the commutation of electron kinetic and potential energies in three dimensions, specifically addressing the x-direction. The kinetic operator and potential energy derived from Coulomb's law have been established, and the commutation brackets are being applied. A key point raised is the need to preserve the order of operators when differentiating, emphasizing that "x" is treated as an operator rather than a simple variable. To compute commutators of differential operators, it is suggested to apply them to a test function and remove it at the end of the calculation. The discussion concludes with a reminder that the differentiation of operators must respect their operational nature.
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In my question I have to find what the commutation of a electrons kinetic and potentials energys are, in 3 Dimensions. I have started by finding the kinetic operator T and the potential energy from coloumbs law. I have then applied commutation brackets and I'm at the stage where I'm solving the commutation bracket for the x-direction. (and then apply symmetry for my 2 other axis) My question is, as we have to retain order when dealing with operators, how do I 'deal' with my

<br /> \newcommand{\pd}[3]{ \frac{ \partial^{#3}{#1} }{ \partial {#2}^{#3} } }<br /> <br /> xi \hbar \pd {} {x} {}<br />

I presume I can't just differentate the x as I need to preserver order, does this just sit like this till I can 'deal' with it?
 
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In my question I have to find what the commutation of a electrons kinetic and potentials energys are, in 3 Dimensions. I have started by finding the kinetic operator T and the potential energy from coloumbs law. I have then applied commutation brackets and I'm at the stage where I'm solving the commutation bracket for the x-direction. (and then apply symmetry for my 2 other axis) My question is, as we have to retain order when dealing with operators, how do I 'deal' with my

<br /> \newcommand{\pd}[3]{ \frac{ \partial^{#3}{#1} }{ \partial {#2}^{#3} } }<br /> <br /> xi \hbar \pd {} {x} {}<br />

I presume I can't just differentate the x as I need to preserver order, does this just sit like this till I can 'deal' with it?


In calculating commutators of differntial operators, it is convenient to apply th commutator on a "test function", which is is just som arbitrary function of x, y and z that must be removed at the very end of the calculation.

So if you have two operators A and B (which are differential operators) and you want to compute their commutator, just consider
[A,B] f(x,y,z) = AB f(x,y,z) - BA f(x,y,z)
Apply all the derivatives and at the very end, remove the test function.
 
You can apply a commutation relation if you wanted to reverse the order.

But remember that "x" is an operator, not a function. So

<br /> \frac{\partial}{\partial x} x \neq 1<br />

Instead, it's supposed to be the operator

<br /> \psi(x, y, z, t) \rightarrow \frac{\partial (x \psi(x, y, z, t))}{\partial x}<br />
 

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