Solving PDE using laplace transforms

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The discussion revolves around solving a partial differential equation (PDE) using Laplace transforms, focusing on the transformation process, the resulting ordinary differential equation (ODE), and the application of boundary conditions. Participants explore the implications of their calculations and the nature of the ODE derived from the Laplace transform.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their initial approach to solving the PDE using the Laplace transform, leading to an ODE and boundary conditions.
  • Another participant points out that the ODE may not be a second-order homogeneous ODE with constant coefficients, suggesting a potential misunderstanding in the formulation.
  • Some participants argue that since $s$ is independent of $x$, the ODE can indeed be treated as a linear, homogeneous second-order ODE in $x$ with constant coefficients.
  • A later reply provides a corrected form of the solution after addressing an error in the characteristic equation, leading to a new expression for $W(x,s)$.
  • Further calculations are presented, including the inverse Laplace transform and validation of the boundary conditions, although the correctness of these steps is not universally agreed upon.

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Participants express differing views on whether the ODE can be treated as a second-order homogeneous ODE with constant coefficients. While some agree with this treatment, others challenge it, indicating a lack of consensus on this aspect of the problem.

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There are unresolved questions regarding the assumptions made in the treatment of the ODE and the implications of the boundary conditions. The discussion reflects ongoing exploration rather than definitive conclusions.

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Readers interested in the application of Laplace transforms to PDEs, particularly those exploring the nuances of ODE characteristics and boundary conditions in mathematical physics.

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[Solved] Solving PDE using laplace transforms

Hey, I'm stuck on this problem and I don't seem to be making any headway.

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I took the Laplace transform with respect to t, and ended up with the following ODE:

$\frac{\partial^2 W}{\partial x^2}-W(s^2+2s+1)=0$

and the boundary conditions for $x$

$W(0,s)=\frac{30s}{(s^2+9)^2}$
and
$W(\infty,s)=0$

I tried to solve the ODE as a second order homogeneous ODE. I got the roots
$\lambda=0$
$\lambda=s^2+2s+1$

which should correspond to the solution:
$W=C_1(s)e^{(s^2+2s+1)x}+C_2(s)$

But this doesn't seem to make sense, because the I can't see how the boundary conditions could be satisfied. If x is infinity, then that means that $C_1(s)$ would have to be zero, otherwise $C_2(s)$ would have to be $-\infty$, which doesn't work anyways, since infinity take infinity is undefined. Something has to have gone wrong here

I would really appreciate it if someone could give me a hand and tell me where I've gone wrong. Thank you all so much :)

EDIT:
Turns out I found most of my problem, and that is that I messed up the characteristic equation in my second order derivative. Once I fixed that, I ended up with the result:
$W=C_1(s)e^{(s+1)x}+C_2(s)e^{-(s+1)x}$
 
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Re: [Solved] Solving PDE using laplace transforms

TheFallen018 said:
EDIT:
Turns out I found most of my problem, and that is that I messed up the characteristic equation in my second order derivative. Once I fixed that, I ended up with the result:
$W=C_1(s)e^{(s+1)x}+C_2(s)e^{-(s+1)x}$

Hey Fallen One,

So I guess it is solved?
 
I tried to solve the ODE
as a second order homogeneous ODE
.

It appears you were trying to solve it as a second order homogenous ODE with constant coefficients. But it is not!
 
HallsofIvy said:
It appears you were trying to solve it as a second order homogenous ODE with constant coefficients. But it is not!
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Not sure I agree. Isn't $s$ the frequency domain equivalent of $t?$ The resulting ODE from taking the LT is in $x$, and $s$ is independent of $x$. So I think you can treat it as a linear, homogeneous second-order ODE in $x$ with constant coefficients.
 
Ackbach said:
Not sure I agree. Isn't $s$ the frequency domain equivalent of $t?$ The resulting ODE from taking the LT is in $x$, and $s$ is independent of $x$. So I think you can treat it as a linear, homogeneous second-order ODE in $x$ with constant coefficients.

Indeed.
So let's continue the calculation...

We have:
$$W(x,s)=C_1(s) e^{(s+1)x} + C_2(s)e^{-(s+1)x},\quad W(0,s)=\frac{30s}{(s^2+9)^2}, \quad W(\infty,s)=0$$
With $\Re(s)\ge 0$ it follows that $C_1(s)=0$ and:
$$W(x,s)=\frac{30s}{(s^2+9)^2}e^{-(s+1)x}$$
The inverse Laplacian with respect to $s$ is:
$$w(x,t)=5e^{-x}(t-x)\sin(3(t-x))$$
Substitute in the original equation and W/A validates that it holds.
Substitute $x=0$ and we get the boundary condition $w(0,t)=5t\sin(3t)$ as expected.
 

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