Solving Perplexing Commutator for Simplification

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The discussion revolves around the simplification of a commutator involving field operators in the context of quantum field theory. Participants are exploring the mathematical manipulation of integrals and commutators, specifically focusing on how certain terms can be simplified or factored out in the expression provided.

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  • One participant questions how the simplification leads to the integral involving the delta function and the Laplacian operator, noting the initial conditions of the commutators.
  • Another participant suggests considering integration by parts as a potential method to simplify the expression further.
  • A different participant proposes expanding the commutator and expresses difficulty in factoring out the Laplacian in the resulting terms.
  • One participant recommends using the property of commutators with products and suggests that commutators behave similarly to functional derivatives, implying a deeper connection to quantum mechanics.

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Participants appear to have differing views on the best approach to simplify the expression, with no consensus reached on the method or outcome of the simplification process.

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When simplifying this

\int d^3x' [\pi(x), \frac{1}{2}\pi^2(x') + \frac{1}{2} \phi(x')( -\nabla^2 + m^2)\phi(x')]

we know that

[\pi(x), \pi(x')] = 0

[\phi(x), \pi(x')] = -i\delta(x-x')

how does that simplify to

\int d^3x' \delta(x-x')( -\nabla^2 + m^2)\phi(x')

I know that

[\pi(x), \pi^2(x')] = 0

but not sure how does the laplacian gets factored out like that and one-half disappears?
 
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Have you tried to see what part integration brings you ?
 
By expanding the commutator we get,

<br /> \frac{1}{2} \int d^3x&#039; \pi(x)\phi(x&#039;)( -\nabla^2 + m^2)\phi(x&#039;) - \phi(x&#039;)( -\nabla^2 + m^2)\phi(x&#039;)\pi(x)<br />

the laplacian in the second term is sandwiched between two phis, integration by part doesn't seem to help to factor it out.
 
I think you're better off using [A,BC] = [A,B]C + B[A,C] and then integration by parts. Also, it's a good time in your life to realize that a commutator behaves very much like a functional derivative (recall QM 101).
 

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