Solving Physics Problems: Coin Down an Incline

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The problem involves a coin placed on an incline of 50.0 degrees, released from rest, and the goal is to determine its speed after traveling 30.0 cm down the ramp, considering a coefficient of kinetic friction of 0.75.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the meaning and implications of the coefficient of kinetic friction, suggesting the use of free-body diagrams to analyze forces. Some express uncertainty about the terminology and seek clarification on friction types.

Discussion Status

The discussion is exploring the definitions and roles of different coefficients of friction, with some participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem. There is a recognition of confusion regarding terminology, but no consensus has been reached on the solution approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential for misunderstanding between kinetic friction and other types of friction, such as static friction, and there is mention of the need for foundational knowledge on friction to proceed with the problem.

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Homework Statement



(c) This coin is placed flat on the same ramp (incline of 50.0o to the horizontal) and released from rest. How fast is the coin moving after the same distance down the ramp (30.0 cm) if the coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.75?

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I'm not sure what is meant by the coefficient of kinetic friction.
 
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the coefficient of kinetic friction tells you how the surfaces (the coin and the ramp surfaces) interact. Start with a free-body diagram and show all the forces on the object. But maybe first you should read about friction and see how the coefficient of friction is used:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/frict.html
 
Jon.G said:

Homework Statement



(c) This coin is placed flat on the same ramp (incline of 50.0o to the horizontal) and released from rest. How fast is the coin moving after the same distance down the ramp (30.0 cm) if the coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.75?

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The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not sure what is meant by the coefficient of kinetic friction.

Seems like something you could look up in your notes, your text, or online via web search.
 
There are two coefficients of friction - inertial and kinetic. In both cases, they are the ratio of the frictional force to the force pushing the two surfaces together.

Generally, materials will have a higher coefficient when they are not sliding past each other. That higher coefficient is the "inertial" one. Once that inertial friction is overcome, the surfaces begin sliding past each other and the frictional force becomes "kinetic friction".
 
.Scott said:
There are two coefficients of friction - inertial and kinetic. In both cases, they are the ratio of the frictional force to the force pushing the two surfaces together.

Generally, materials will have a higher coefficient when they are not sliding past each other. That higher coefficient is the "inertial" one. Once that inertial friction is overcome, the surfaces begin sliding past each other and the frictional force becomes "kinetic friction".

I think you mean "static", not "inertial". The two coefficients for the standard model of friction are:

μs: coefficient of static friction
μk: coefficient of kinetic friction
 
Oh my God. I don't know why but whenever I read this question I read it as 'coefficient of kinetic energy' and I was getting really confused by it. That's embarassing :S
 

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