Solving Possion's equation: electrostatic potential

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The discussion revolves around solving Poisson's equation in the context of electrostatic potential. Participants are examining boundary conditions and the implications of sign errors in their calculations.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to verify their calculations and boundary conditions, expressing concern over potential sign errors. Some participants question the application of boundary conditions and suggest clarifying the constants involved. Others propose simplifying the notation to facilitate understanding.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, identifying errors and suggesting corrections. There is a focus on ensuring the accuracy of boundary conditions and constants, with some participants expressing increased confidence in their revised approaches.

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There are indications of missing information regarding the constants and boundary conditions necessary for solving the problem. Participants are also addressing the implications of negative signs in their results.

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I have the problem and my work uploaded to this webpage. I believe I have the general idea down, but I'm just afraid that I've done a careless calculation and missed a minus sign somewhere. I feel that my results have a lot of negative signs, making the potential constantly negative. I'm not sure if this is what is expected. Any help is appreciated.

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You've made an error when applying the boundary conditions:

[tex]{\varphi}_{I}(R)={\varphi}_{II}(R), \quad {\varphi}_{II}(R+d)={\varphi}_{III}(R+d)[/tex]

You've for some reason interchanged your constants [itex]C_0[/itex] and [itex]C_1[/itex] with [itex]C_3[/itex] and [itex]C_4[/itex]; you can't do this.

You have 4 unknown constants to solve for, so you will need 4 boundary conditions. Luckily, [itex]\varphi[/itex] isn't the only thing that is continuous; [itex]\vec{E}(r)=\vec{\nabla} \varphi[/itex] must be continuous as well. This should give you your other two boundary conditions.
 
[tex]{\varphi}_{I}(r)=C_1^I[/tex]
[tex]{\varphi}_{II}(r)=-\frac{4 \pi r^2 \rho }{6} + \frac{C_0^II}{r}+C_1^II[/tex]
[tex]{\varphi}_{III}(r)=\frac{C_0^{III}}{r}[/tex]

[tex]{\varphi}_{I}(R)=C_1^I[/tex]
[tex]{\varphi}_{II}(R)=-\frac{4 \pi R^2 \rho }{6} + \frac{C_0^II}{R}+C_1^II[/tex]
[tex]{\varphi}_{II}(R+d)=-\frac{4 \pi (R+d)^2 \rho}{6} + \frac{C_0^II}{R+d}+C_1^II[/tex]
[tex]{\varphi}_{III}(R+d)=\frac{C_0^{III}}{R+d}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{d {\varphi}_{I}{dr} |_{r=R} = 0[/tex]
[tex]\frac{d {\varphi}_{II}{dr} |_{r=R} = \frac{8 \pi R \rho }{6} - \frac{C_0^{II}}{R^2}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{d {\varphi}_{II}{dr} |_{r=R+d} = \frac{8 \pi (R+d) \rho }{6} - \frac{C_0^{II}}{(R+d)^2}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{d {\varphi}_{III}{dr} |_{r=R+d} = - \frac{C_0^{III}}{(R+d)^2}[/tex]


We use the 4 B.C.:

[tex]{\varphi}_{I}(R) = [tex]{\varphi}_{II}(R)[/tex]<br /> [tex]{\varphi}_{II}(R+d) = {\varphi}_{III}(R+d)[/tex]<br /> [tex]\frac{d {\varphi}_{I}{dr} |_{r=R} = \frac{d {\varphi}_II}{dr} |_{r=R}[/tex]<br /> [tex]\frac{d {\varphi}_{II}{dr} |_{r=R+d} = \frac{d {\varphi}_III}{dr} |_{r=R+d}[/tex]<br /> <br /> I've already caught 2 minus sign errors... but this is how I'm setting up everything to solve for the 4 constants.[/tex]
 
Why not write it as:

[tex]{\varphi}_{I}(r)=C_0[/tex][tex]{\varphi}_{III}(r)=\frac{C_1}{r}[/tex]

[tex]{\varphi}_{II}(r)=-\frac{4 \pi r^2 \rho }{6} + \frac{C_2}{r}+C_3[/tex]

to get rid of those cumbersome superscripts and make it a little easier to work with?
 
You are still missing a couple of negative signs:

[tex]\frac{d {\varphi}_{II}}{dr} |_{r=R} = -\frac{8 \pi R \rho }{6} - \frac{C_0^{II}}{R^2}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{d {\varphi}_{II}}{dr} |_{r=R+d} = -\frac{8 \pi (R+d) \rho }{6} - \frac{C_0^{II}}{(R+d)^2}[/tex]

What do you get for your constants now?
 
You are missing a negative sign for C_2, which is affecting your other constants.
 
thanks for the help, I'm confident that i do not have any more errors after solving for the e-field and checking the BC and limiting cases
 

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