Solving Probability of Husband & Wife on Committee of 4

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The problem involves calculating the probability that a husband and wife do not both belong to a committee of 4 people selected from 5 married couples. The context is probability theory, specifically focusing on combinations and restrictions based on relationships.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss various methods for calculating probabilities based on different gender combinations within the committee. Questions arise regarding the correct grouping of individuals and the implications of including couples in the committee.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing different interpretations of the problem and questioning the assumptions made in the initial attempts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the grouping of individuals, but clarity is still sought on how to accurately represent the probability calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding how to account for the presence of couples in the committee and the correct method for calculating the probabilities based on the committee's composition.

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My friend came up with some solutions but I have doubts about them and was wondering if someone could help a bit.

Homework Statement


A committee of 4 people is randomly selected from 5 married couples. What is the probability that a husband and wife do not belong to that committee?

The Attempt at a Solution


I have All possible combinations = 4C10
then, divided into groups / sets:
P("all men"), P("3 men, 1 woman"), P("2 men, 2 women"), P("1 man, 3 women"), P("all women").

Then P(final answer) = [P("all men") + P("3 men, 1 woman") + P("2 men, 2 women") + P("1 man, 3 women") + P("all women")] / All possible combinations

My question, or more specifically, the part I am confused about is this: what stops a couple from being on the committee? Please explain this answer, I don't quite get it.

Thank you!
 
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With a single-sex committee you cannot have H&W team. But, with the other combinations, there may be a situation where a couple is included, or not. For example, if the committee has 3 men & 1 woman, there is a probability that one of the 3 men will be the woman's husband. Your formula does not reflect that probability.
 
Hey

Okay, so here is the solution to this problem I have come up with:

P("all men") = (5, 4)
P("3 men, 1 woman") = (5, 3)(2, 1)
P("2 men, 2 women") = (5, 2)(3, 2)
P("1 man, 3 women") = (5, 1)(4, 3)
P("all women") = (5, 4)

And total possibilities: (10, 4)

Then, as I said above, P(final answer) = [P("all men") + P("3 men, 1 woman") + P("2 men, 2 women") + P("1 man, 3 women") + P("all women")] / All possible combinations

Please let me know if this makes sense / looks correct.

Thank you!
Beth
 
Hi Beth, you have split your people up wrong. You have 2 groups of 5 (5 men, 5 women), the right way to split them up is into 5 groups of 2 (the Smith's, the Wilson's, the Doe's, ...). For the purpose of this problem, what matters is which couple a given individual belongs to, not which gender.

-Dale
 
Hey

Would it be possible to give a bit more guidance? I don't quite understand this. I have 5 groups of two couples each. 1 person from the 2 in the group can be selected... so would it be something like:

(2, 1)(2, 1)(2, 1)(2, 1)(2, 1) / (10, 4)

Please help! Thanks
Beth
 
Actually, I have another possibility I thought of.

Since P("husband and wife not being on the committee") = 1 - P("husband and wife on same committee").

There are 5 couples, ie, 5 sets of husband and wife, and (10, 4) total possibilities.
Could P("husband and wife on same committee") = 5 / (10, 4) ?

Thanks!
Beth
 

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