Solving Projectile Motion Confusion: Time and Distance Calculations

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The discussion revolves around a projectile motion problem involving a stone thrown horizontally from a height of 10 meters with a constant velocity of 5 m/s. Participants are attempting to calculate the time it takes for the stone to hit the ground and the distance it travels during that time.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations for both vertical and horizontal motion, questioning the setup and assumptions related to initial positions and velocities. Some express confusion about the application of these equations and the role of gravity.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided guidance on the equations to use and the importance of separating horizontal and vertical motion. There is an acknowledgment of the challenges faced by the original poster, with suggestions to visualize the problem and clarify the equations involved. However, no consensus has been reached on a complete solution.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the original poster's struggle with understanding the equations and the lack of sufficient examples in their learning environment. There is also mention of the need for clarity regarding the direction of acceleration due to gravity.

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Homework Statement



A stone is thrown horizontally from a height of 10m above ground and moves with constant velocity of 5m/s. Calculate:

a) the time it will take to hit the ground
b) the distance traveled in the calculated time


Homework Equations



Now for a i am using x = volt+1/2at2 but i just cannot get my head around it
I understand that b will be velocity x time?


The Attempt at a Solution



10 = 0 x t +1/2 x 9.81 xt2
10 = ?

I just have some kind of mental block going on, I've read my textbooks and websites but no luck.
 
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You have left out the term which involves initial position but since your acceleration is positive you will still get the right answer. Other than that, you're incredibly close. Try using Latex in the future so we can read your equations without getting a headache.
 
first off:
g = 9.81

y = y0 + v0y*t - (1/2)*g* t ^2

(notice the minus, since the accelaration is negative - gravity pulls the body down, if we convention the y-axis is pointing up)
also, notice y0 (inital position in the vertical axis) = 10
and the vertical component of the initial velocity = 0
so:
1) y = 10 - 1/2*g*t^2

also : x = x0 + v0x*t +1/2 a t^2
so
we know that the horizontal accelaration, and the horizontal position at t=0 equal 0, and v0 = 5 so:
2) x = 0 + 5*t + 0

We want to know at what time the object hits the ground, so y = 0. substitute it in the 1) equation.

Solve the equation:

0 = 10 - 1/2*9.8*t^2.

then, substitute t in the 2) equation and solve it.
 
I still don't get it :/ This is driving me insane. My physics teacher is useless, we never do enough examples.
 
okay:
First of all, i recommend you try and draw the problem, as it always help to understand.
So, you need two equations, one for the horizontal movement, and one for the vertical, since the object will move both horizontally (it has a horizontal speed), and vertically (it's falling)

it's initial position can be given by the vector (x,y) = (0,5)

Horizontal :
[tex]x = x_{0} + v_{x} \times t + \frac{1}{2} \times a \times t^{2}[/tex]

Vertical:
[tex]y = y_{0} + v_{y} \times t + \frac{1}{2} \times g \times t^{2}[/tex]

g = 9.81

first you want to know at what time it hits the ground, so, you just need the vertical equation. It hits the ground when y = 0.
[tex]y_{0}[/tex] , is the initial vertical position. Since it's 10m above the ground, it equals 10.
v_{y} = 0, because there is no initial velocity downwards or upwards, and the accelaration is, as stated, 9.81. Since the movement is downwards, the accelaration is negative (of course this depends on the referential you choose, but generally speaking, it's simpler this way)
Therefor :

Vertical:
[tex]0 = 10 + 0 \times t - \frac{1}{2} \times g \times t^{2}[/tex]

[tex]t = \sqrt{\frac{10 \times 2}{g}}[/tex]

solve that, and you have the time it hits the floor.

Then you need to know the distance it traveled.

Now, you need the horizontal equation.
We know it's initial horizontal position is 0, initial velocity 5, and there is no accelaration given, so:

[tex]x = 0 + 5 \times t + 0[/tex]

Now, take the t you got from your first equation, and substitute it here. Now you do the math.

This is the general basis for projectile based problems: You should remember it.
You have to consider always an equation for each axis of movement, consider the velocity in each axis, the initial position in each axis, and the accelaration.
 
Thankyou Fanta, makes sense now.
 

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