Solving Second Diff. Homework: y"(x)

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The original poster presents a problem involving the second derivative of a function defined as y(x) = exp (-(\sqrt{ms}/2t) x^{2}). The task is to find y''(x).

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the differentiation process, with one suggesting that simplifying constants could aid in clarity. There is also a focus on the importance of avoiding unnecessary complexity in expressions during differentiation.

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Some participants have offered guidance on simplifying the problem and emphasized the nature of constants in differentiation. The discussion includes various interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding terminology and the approach to finding the second derivative.

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There is a mention of the original poster's confusion regarding terminology, specifically the distinction between second derivative and second differential. Additionally, the complexity of the expression is noted as a potential barrier to understanding.

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Homework Statement

y(x) = exp (-([tex]\sqrt{ms}/2t[/tex]) x[tex]^{2}[/tex])

Find the y"(x)

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y'(x) = (-([tex]\sqrt{ms}/2t[/tex]) 2x) exp (-([tex]\sqrt{ms}/2t[/tex]) x[tex]^{2}[/tex])

y"(x) = (-([tex]\sqrt{ms}/t[/tex])) exp (-([tex]\sqrt{ms}/2t[/tex]) x[tex]^{2}[/tex]) + (([tex]ms/4t^{2}[/tex])4x[tex]^{2}[/tex]) exp (-([tex]\sqrt{ms}/2t[/tex]) x[tex]^{2}[/tex])This is correct? Sorry if it looks a bit messy... Thanks.
 
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Could you please try to clean up the equation of the problem a little bit? Just for clarification.
 
I hope that makes it easier.
 
theJorge551 said:
Could you please try to clean up the equation of the problem a little bit? Just for clarification.

Jenkz said:
I hope that makes it easier.

I can't see any that yet.

I think Jorge's point is, contrary to what many students imagine, there is no virtue in complicated-looking expressions, in carrying through all unnecessary complication in a problem until, maybe at the end, it matters. You have, if y'(x) means dy/dx, a function of ( x2 multiplied by a constant). You don't need to know how the constant is made up of this, that and the other when you differentiate. So just call it a. Or you can call it -a. Then you can see what you are doing easier and make fewer mistakes.

As you go through phys and math you will see all the time where where where. I.e. w = some function of, say, [au + sin2(bv)] where a and b each = some other jumble of constants stuff (sometimes quite complicated stuff, like 'where a is the solution of this horrible equation' - something you could never carry through with everything explicit all the time). At the end of a calculation you might need to unravel or put back what is in the a and b to see how, e.g. a physical behaviour depends on the parameters inside them.
 
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epenguin said:
I think Jorge's point is, contrary to what many students imagine, there is no virtue in complicated-looking expressions, in carrying through all unnecessary complication in a problem until, maybe at the end, it matters. You have, if y'(x) means dy/dx, a function of ( x2 multiplied by a constant). You don't need to know how the constant is made up of this, that and the other when you differentiate. So just call it a. Or you can call it -a. Then you can see what you are doing easier and make fewer mistakes.
Excellent point. After all, [tex]\sqrt{ms}/2t[/tex] is just a constant as far as differentiation with respect to x is concerned.

BTW, you (the OP) are trying to find the second derivative, not the second differential. Also, this is hardly a precalculus problem.
 
Thank you for the advice.

@Mark44: sorry about that.
 

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