Solving Series ODE: Finding x(0) w/ Problem Statement

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The discussion revolves around solving a series ordinary differential equation (ODE) and interpreting the initial condition x(0) = 0. Participants are exploring the implications of this condition and how it affects the coefficients in the series expansion.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to derive coefficients a_n from the series representation and questioning the meaning of the initial condition x(0) = 0. There is uncertainty about the function of x and how it relates to the coefficients derived from the recursion relations.

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Some participants have provided insights into the potential typo regarding the initial condition and have pointed out corrections in the calculations of the coefficients. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the coefficients and the initial conditions, with no clear consensus yet.

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There is mention of possible typos in the problem statement regarding the initial conditions, which may affect the interpretation of the series expansion. Participants are also discussing the implications of setting certain terms to zero based on their calculations.

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Homework Statement

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I did the "show that" part. But what is throwing me off is the x(0)=0 part. What is "x" a function of? Using the series in the square brackets,

I found that when
n=0, a_1 = a_0 ^2
n=1, a_2 = (a_1 * a_0)/2
n=2, a_3 = (a_0*a_2 + a_1^2 + a_2*a_0)/3

So it would seem that a_3 is still zero because all the terms it is a function of are also zero (or, at least, should be). I'm not confident about this... where did I go wrong?
 
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Whether they mean that x(y=0) = 0 or it's a typo and should have been y(x=0)=0, both give the same results. You use the initial condition to show that a0=0. There's no reason to set x=0 in the recursion relations.
 
mathman44 said:

Homework Statement


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The Attempt at a Solution



I did the "show that" part. But what is throwing me off is the x(0)=0 part. What is "x" a function of? Using the series in the square brackets,

I found that when
n=0, a_1 = a_0 ^2
n=1, a_2 = (a_1 * a_0)/2
n=2, a_3 = (a_0*a_2 + a_1^2 + a_2*a_0)/3

So it would seem that a_3 is still zero because all the terms it is a function of are also zero (or, at least, should be). I'm not confident about this... where did I go wrong?

Check your a2, I get a2=a1a0 but that isn't your main problem. For n = 2 you are looking at the coefficient of x2 on the left side. Don't forget there is a -x2 term outside of the sum.

As far as the x(0) = 0 thing, I would bet it is a typo and means y(0) = 0.
 
Hey phil, I'm pretty sure a3=1/3, and the next nonzero coefficient is a7=1/63, didn't look for the next, I think it's a11=2/2079 though. (we're working together). (btw your a3 equation should be (3a3-a12-2a0a2)x2-x2=0, so the coefficient of the first x2 isn't suppose to be zero.)
 
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Thanks for the help, I got it ;)
 

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