Solving Shell Explosion: Find v2 & v3, Sketch Velocities

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The problem involves a shell that explodes into three pieces of equal mass, with one piece maintaining its initial velocity and the other two pieces having velocities that are equal in magnitude but mutually perpendicular. The discussion centers on finding the velocities of the two pieces after the explosion and understanding the implications of momentum conservation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and the need to consider both x and y components of the velocities before and after the explosion. Questions are raised about the implications of the initial momentum and the direction of the velocities v2 and v3.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the relationships between the components of the velocities and the conservation laws. Some guidance has been offered regarding the vector nature of momentum and the angles involved, but no consensus has been reached on the specific values of v2 and v3.

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Participants note that the vertical momentum before the explosion is zero, which influences the direction of the resulting velocities. The problem is framed within the constraints of a homework assignment, emphasizing the need for careful consideration of vector components.

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A shell traveling with velocity vo explodes into three pieces of equal masses. Just after the explosion, one piece has velocity v1=vo and the other two have velocities v2 and v3 that are equal in magnitude but mutually perpendicular.
Find v2 and v3 and sketch their velocities.



In starting the question, the x and y components of v2 and v3 have to be equal before and after the explosion, and the Net external forces must cancel out?
 
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Oblio said:
A shell traveling with velocity vo explodes into three pieces of equal masses. Just after the explosion, one piece has velocity v1=vo and the other two have velocities v2 and v3 that are equal in magnitude but mutually perpendicular.
Find v2 and v3 and sketch their velocities.



In starting the question, the x and y components of v2 and v3 have to be equal before and after the explosion, and the Net external forces must cancel out?

v2 and v3 don't exist before the explosion. What is the total momentum before the collision?

If vo is in the horizontal direction... that means that before the collision, the momentum is 0 vertically. So what does that tell you about the vertical components of v2 and v3?

what is the angle v2 and v3 make with the horizontal?
 
Oblio said:
A shell traveling with velocity vo explodes into three pieces of equal masses. Just after the explosion, one piece has velocity v1=vo and the other two have velocities v2 and v3 that are equal in magnitude but mutually perpendicular.
Find v2 and v3 and sketch their velocities.
In starting the question, the x and y components of v2 and v3 have to be equal before and after the explosion, and the Net external forces must cancel out?

Law of conservation of momentum. The initial total momentum shouldbe equal to the total final momentum now as the masses are same for the three parts we can note them as m/3 each wherem is the mass of the whole shell. So we can elimate m from both the sides.

And now we can proceed easily.But beware of the vector sums.
 
So:

mvo = (m/3)v1 + (m/3)v2 + (m/3)v3

If v2 and v3 are mutually perpendicular, and if the vertical component of the y velocity is zero before the explosion, the y components must be in opposite directions?

45 degrees above horizontal and 45 degrees below horizontal, in the +x direction?
 
Oblio said:
So:

mvo = (m/3)v1 + (m/3)v2 + (m/3)v3

Yes, this is true in vector form... in other words:

m\vec{vo} = (m/3)\vec{v1} + (m/3)\vec{v2} + (m/3)\vec{v3}

but when you are looking at only the horizontal direction, what equation do you get? call the magnitude of v2 and v3, vk... so what's the conservation of momentum equation in the x-direction? also you know that \vec{v1} = \vec{vo}, so substitute that in also.

If v2 and v3 are mutually perpendicular, and if the vertical component of the y velocity is zero before the explosion, the y components must be in opposite directions?

45 degrees above horizontal and 45 degrees below horizontal, in the +x direction?

Yes, that's true. The angle is 45.
 

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