Solving Stopping Potential for Electrons Ejected from Metal at 337nm Wavelength

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The discussion revolves around calculating the stopping potential for electrons ejected from a metal when exposed to light of a specific wavelength (337 nm). The problem involves concepts from quantum mechanics and photoelectric effect, specifically relating to work function and kinetic energy of electrons.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between kinetic energy, stopping potential, and work function. There are attempts to derive the stopping potential using different constants and units, leading to confusion over the calculations. Questions arise regarding the use of Planck's constant in different units and the implications for the final answer.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the algebraic approach to the problem, suggesting that the original poster may have made a mathematical error. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to arrive at the stopping potential, with no clear consensus on the correct approach yet.

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Hello everyone! Our professor told us how to do this problem but it doesn't seem to be working. Here is what the problem says:
(a) If the work function for a certain metal is 1.5 eV, what is its stopping potential for electrons ejected from the metal when light of wavelength 337 nm shines on the metal?

Well he explained, the theory behind it, and it made sense. He then said, the Kenetic Engery (KE) will turn equal the Stopping Potential * electric charge of an electron.

THe KE is in electron volts, eV.
KE = (Stopping Potential)(Eelctric charge of electron);
We want the stopping potential so:
(stoppping Poential) = KE/1.602E-19;

We find KE by the following:
h = planks constant = 4.136E-15 eVs;
KE = h*f - work;
where f is the frequency;
We find f by:
f = c/wave length;
f = (3E8 m/s)/(337E-9m) = 8.902E14 s^-1

they give us the work, so all we need now is to solve for KE, then we have to divide KE by charge of an electoron and that should be the answer.

KE = (4.136E-15 eVs)( 8.902E14 s^-1) - 1.5eV;
KE = 2.1819 eV;
PE = 2.1819eV/1.602E-19;
PE = 1.36196E19;

Which is wrong. Someone got the answer right, but their answer was a lot smaller tahn mine. They got 2.302 somthing, had no E19. Any ideas where i messed up? Thanks!

they want the answer in Volts.
I submitted 1.3619 omitting the E19, and also tried putting E19, both don't work.
 
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mr_coffee said:
Hello everyone! Our professor told us how to do this problem but it doesn't seem to be working. Here is what the problem says:
(a) If the work function for a certain metal is 1.5 eV, what is its stopping potential for electrons ejected from the metal when light of wavelength 337 nm shines on the metal?
...
THe KE is in electron volts, eV.
KE = (Stopping Potential)(Eelctric charge of electron);
We want the stopping potential so:
(stoppping Poential) = KE/1.602E-19;

We find KE by the following:
h = planks constant = 4.136E-15 eVs;
KE = h*f - work;
where f is the frequency;
We find f by:
f = c/wave length;
f = (3E8 m/s)/(337E-9m) = 8.902E14 s^-1

they give us the work, so all we need now is to solve for KE, then we have to divide KE by charge of an electoron and that should be the answer.

KE = (4.136E-15 eVs)( 8.902E14 s^-1) - 1.5eV;
KE = 2.1819 eV;
PE = 2.1819eV/1.602E-19;
PE = 1.36196E19;
The stopping potential is the potential (energy / unit charge) measured in volts (joules/coulomb) that must be applied to stop the electrons from being ejected from the surface when the light is shone on it.

If the energy of the incident photon is greater than the work required to remove the electron from the surface plus the applied (-) potential, electrons will leave the surface with some kinetic energy. The stopping potential is the applied potential that makes this KE = 0.

So the stopping potential is given by:

[tex]q_eV_s = E_{photon} - q_e\phi[/tex]
[tex]V_s = h\nu/q_e - \phi[/tex]

where [itex]V_s[/itex] is the stopping potential and [itex]\phi[/itex] is the work function (Joules/coulomb).

I think you understand this. Your problem may be just in math. To avoid confusion, work out the solution algebraically and the plug in numbers at the end.

In SI units:

[tex]h\nu/q_e = hc/\lambda q_e = 6.63e-34 * 3e8/337e-9*1.6e-19 = 3.69[/tex] Volts.

So V_s = 3.69 - 1.5 = 2.29 V.

AM
 
Thank you for the explanation, it makes senes to me. It seems to be algebra like you said. But i submitted your answer and it still didn't like it. 2.29V. I'm wondering why you used 6.663eE-34 J Hz, instead of 4.136x10^-15 eVs? I plugged in 4.136E-15 instead of 6.63E-34 and got my orginal answer whichi is also wrong. But i don't see why its saying yours is wrong. :bugeye:
 
mr_coffee said:
Thank you for the explanation, it makes senes to me. It seems to be algebra like you said. But i submitted your answer and it still didn't like it. 2.29V. I'm wondering why you used 6.663eE-34 J Hz, instead of 4.136x10^-15 eVs? I plugged in 4.136E-15 instead of 6.63E-34 and got my orginal answer whichi is also wrong. But i don't see why its saying yours is wrong. :bugeye:
He used that value because he is working in SI unites (kg, meter, second). I think it is just a simple mistake in the last step...3.69-1.5 gives 2.19, not 2.29 volt.
 
Whoops! you are correct again! your a machine hah, thanks again!
 
mr_coffee said:
Whoops! you are correct again! your a machine hah, thanks again!

How did you know (that I am a machine)? I am actually 200 Pentium 4 connected in parallel.
:smile:
 

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