Solving the 2D laplace equation. Quick question about the final stage

In summary: V(x,y) = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} -\frac{2V(-1)^n}{n\pi \sinh ({n \pi b \over a })} \sin ({n \pi x \over a}) \sinh ({n \pi y \over a})##. Is this correct?
  • #1
Gregg
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Homework Statement



## \frac{\partial^2 V}{\partial x^2} +\frac{\partial^2 V}{\partial y^2} = 0 ##

it's defined for ##V=0 ## for

## x=0, 0<y<b##,
## x=a, 0<y<b##,
## y=0, 0<x<a##

##V=V_0 x/a ## for ## y=b, 0<x<a##

Homework Equations



None.

The Attempt at a Solution



I've got

##V(x,b) = \displaystyle V_0 x/a = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} K_n \sin ({n \pi x \over a}) \sinh ({n \pi b \over a}) ##

At first I thought I could set K to 0 for n>1 and do a simple division, but I don't know what K1 is. Do I always need to find Fourier coefficients. I have seen a problem www.robots.ox.ac.uk/~jmb/lectures/pdelecture5.pdf here where in the final stage they do something like this. I'm guessing I need to do the former, but I am interested to know if the other method is possible.

As for the coefficients, the function is odd so the only integral I need is the sine integral.

## K_n = \frac{1}{a} \int_0^{2a} \frac{V x}{a} \sin ({n \pi x \over a}) dx =-\frac{2V}{n\pi} ##

I think this is right:

##V(x,y) = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} -\frac{2V}{n\pi} \sin ({n \pi x \over a}) \sinh ({n \pi y \over a})##
 
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Gregg said:

Homework Statement



## \frac{\partial V}{\partial x} +\frac{\partial V}{\partial y} = 0 ##

Presumably those are second order partials.

it's defined for ##V=0 ## for

## x=0, 0<y<b##,
## x=a, 0<y<b##,
## y=0, 0<x<a##

##V=V_0 x/a ## for ## y=b, 0<x<a##

Homework Equations



None.

The Attempt at a Solution



I've got

Presumably you got for your proposed solution$$
V(x,y) = \sum_{n=1}^\infty K_n\sin\frac{n\pi x}{a}\sinh\frac{n\pi y}{a}$$It is when you put in ##y=b## you get the next equation, and the left side of that equation should be ##V(x,b)##, not ##V(x,y)## since you are trying to make the last boundary condition work.

##V(x,y) = \displaystyle V_0 x/a = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} K_n \sin ({n \pi x \over a}) \sinh ({n \pi b \over a}) ##

At first I thought I could set K to 0 for n>1 and do a simple division, but I don't know what K1 is. Do I always need to find Fourier coefficients. I have seen a problem www.robots.ox.ac.uk/~jmb/lectures/pdelecture5.pdf here where in the final stage they do something like this. I'm guessing I need to do the former, but I am interested to know if the other method is possible.

As for the coefficients, the function is odd so the only integral I need is the sine integral.

## K_n = \frac{1}{a} \int_0^{2a} \frac{V x}{a} \sin ({n \pi x \over a}) dx =-\frac{2V}{n\pi} ##

I think this is right:

##V(x,y) = \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} -\frac{2V}{n\pi} \sin ({n \pi x \over a}) \sinh ({n \pi y \over a})##

No, you've lost your way here. Of course you need a Fourier Series. How else can the sum of sine terms equal ##V_0x/a##? First, it doesn't matter whether that function is odd because whatever it might be, you would use the odd half-range expansion since all you have to work with is sine terms. What you need is for$$K_n\sinh\frac {n\pi b} a$$ to be the half range Fourier coefficient usually called ##b_n##. So set$$
K_n\sinh\frac {n\pi b} a = \frac 2 a\int_0^a \frac {V_0x} a \sin\frac{n\pi x}a dx$$
Solve that for ##K_n## and put in in the formula for ##V(x,y)##.
 
  • #3
I get ##K_n = -\frac{2V(-1)^n}{n \pi \sinh ({n \pi b \over a } )}##
 

1. What is the 2D Laplace equation?

The 2D Laplace equation is a partial differential equation that describes the change in temperature, voltage, or potential in a two-dimensional space. It is used in many areas of science and engineering, including fluid dynamics, electromagnetism, and heat transfer.

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